1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Multiple guns suppression fire.

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by tezeech, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. tezeech

    tezeech New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2018
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    4
    Looking at the kriza, specifically the profile with the mk12 and submachine gun. When I go into suppressive is that when I pick the gun or is it like shooting where I don't pick till I decide to roll dice like ammo types?
     
  2. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2017
    Messages:
    1,083
    Likes Received:
    1,462
    Suppressive Fire is a fire mode of a weapon, so you declare which weapon you're using when you enter suppression. You can switch ammo type, if the weapon has more than one, but not the weapon you're using.
     
  3. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    5,715
    Likes Received:
    6,472
    I don't know if that's been officially ruled anywhere.

    This thread never got an answer with people arguing differently about it

    http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/...fire-on-trooper-with-multiple-weapons/?page=2
     
    RogueJello and cazboab like this.
  4. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2017
    Messages:
    1,083
    Likes Received:
    1,462
    Fair point @Triumph, it's possibly legal to declare the weapon at the moment of the ARO, but it's definitely legal to declare it at the point of entering suppression, so until CB says otherwise it's best to stick to the later IMO.
     
  5. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    5,715
    Likes Received:
    6,472
    As with many things in Infinity, follow the rules to what you feel is the best interpretation, then go to a tournament and have it ruled the other way by the TO.

    for what it's worth @tezeech locally we allow multiple guns
     
    Hecaton, Ginrei and cazboab like this.
  6. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Messages:
    884
    Likes Received:
    1,292
    I think the fact that it says a weapon with the SF trait must be used to declare SF sort of implies the limitation to a specific weapon, however making that more clear would certainly be helpful.
     
    Savnock likes this.
  7. Ginrei

    Ginrei Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    914
    Likes Received:
    428
    I interpret SF as a state that applies to the trooper not the gun.

    While in the SF state the trooper can ARO with any weapon available. Using one without SF cancels the state and using one with SF keeps the state active.

    Thematically it seems fine to me. I look at it as using both SF weapons simultaneously. If I can flick a switch to change ammo types why can't I lower the gun in my left hand and raise the gun in my right? Using two guns at once lays down more fire after all.
     
    Hecaton likes this.
  8. pakohbadajoz

    pakohbadajoz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2018
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    67
    Thinking about "what meanz supressive fire" says me you declare supressive fire with X weapon and you must use it.

    Since you use supressive fire you are shooting ;)

    <br>Una ranita iba caminando...
     
    chromedog and Polymorphix like this.
  9. Polymorphix

    Polymorphix Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2019
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    13
    chromedog, Section9, Xeurian and 7 others like this.
  10. Bazlord Prime

    Bazlord Prime Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    5
    Sorry for the Necro...

    Just checking Suppressive Fire mode on Multi weapons. Only the B3 mode can enter SF, right? You couldn't use Stun or DA/EXP ammo at B3 while in Suppressive Fire?
    Thanks
     
  11. KestrelM1

    KestrelM1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2017
    Messages:
    216
    Likes Received:
    441
    That's correct. Only the Burst Mode has the Suppressive Fire trait.
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I am pretty sure you have to declare which ammo you’re employing on the Suppresive Fire and apply only that ammo while the state is not cancelled.
     
  13. Captain_Rose

    Captain_Rose Well-Known Member
    Warcor

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2017
    Messages:
    275
    Likes Received:
    228
    Answered in the FAQ - http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Suppressive_Fire_(State)

    You must declare the weapon when you enter the state.

    N3 Frequently Asked Question FAQ Version: 1.4, Sep 2018
    Q: For a trooper with more than one weapon with the Suppressive Fire trait, must we declare which one he uses to enter Suppressive Fire state or can he use any of those weapons while in this state?
    A: When entering Suppressive Fire state, you must choose which weapon the trooper will use.
    Related Pages: Suppressive Fire, Suppressive Fire (State), Suppressive Fire Mode

    ED
     
    chromedog and cazboab like this.
  14. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2017
    Messages:
    1,083
    Likes Received:
    1,462
    From FAQ:
    Q: When do I choose which ammunition or fire mode is used while in Suppresive Fire?
    A: At the moment of declaring the Burst.

    So you choose the gun when you enter suppressive fire, and the ammo(assuming that ammo mode has the suppressive fire trait) at the declaration of the ARO.
    Practically that means that pretty much the submachinegun gets to choose ap or shock since nearly everything else only has one fire mode with the suppressive fire trait.
     
    Mahtamori likes this.
  15. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    12,018
    Likes Received:
    15,302
    And Multi Rifle, Multi HMG, HRMC, Plasma Rifle (selects blast or direct mode), Multi Marksman Rifle, as well as anything with Marksmanship L1+
     
    Savnock likes this.
  16. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2017
    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    855
    Multi Rifle, Multi HMG, HRMC and Multi Marksman Rifle only have one fire mode with suppressive fire. You can't choose either Anti-materiel Mode or Stun Mode for suppressive fire. They don't get a choice, so it's really just the SMG that gets to pick ammo types in suppressive fire.
     
  17. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2017
    Messages:
    12,018
    Likes Received:
    15,302
    Shock/AP means you must pick whether you use Shock or AP.
     
    Xeurian and Hecaton like this.
  18. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2017
    Messages:
    712
    Likes Received:
    855
    Aaaaah right, that's what I was missing. Thanks.
     
  • About Us

    We are a company founded in 2001 in Cangas (Spain), and devoted to design and manufacture games and figures. Our main product, Infinity the Game, was born with the ambition to satisfy the most demanding audience, offering the best quality.

     

    Why are we here?

     

    Because we are, first and foremost, players.

  • Quick Navigation

    Open the Quick Navigation