As a response to what I think is now the longest thread on the DBS forum (and quite frankly what I feel has been the low point of it also, not an attack or criticism on anybody involved, I'm sure that they are all nice reasonable people, just things got a bit out of hand all around) I wanted to start a thread based on people discussing Druze lists they like, or Druze lists that they would like to try out. Seeing as there are limited options available I would imagine that peoples lists might be quite similar in general. So maybe if people focussed on personal preferences that would be cool! For example, I never leave home without two servant bots. I love that they expand the effective range of my doctors and engineers as well as serving as mine / crazy koala clearers in a pinch also! :-) I also find myself always bringing an EVO, between the overclocking, teampro and satlock buffs I find it to be invaluable! :-)
Good idea mate, liking forward to seeing the ideas float in. Only had a couple of testers so not got much to add myself but every list I've built has had saito in it, he feels pretty invaluable
I know exactly what you mean Csjarrat! I had Saito straight up win me a game of Aquisition last week, (To be fair he hid for two turns then appeared and smoked his way to activating an antennae last minute, but still!)
I think that using the bashi Holo as decoy is a great way to protect a zone. 3 druze is plausible and their chain make you want to stay away from corner.
After seeing Pupnik lists i spent a good time doing my own, with things i saw in his, here they are, each one focused in something, im not going to explain each one as they are six, but i will do if someone asks for something :p Druzos Hunzas ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 2 DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) CLIPPER DRONBOT Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) GROUP 2 6 2 FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Druzos Scarface ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 1 DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) GROUP 2 8 FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) 4 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Druzos Brawler y Haris ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 7 2 FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) GROUP 2 8 DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE (Fireteam: Haris, X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Viral Pistol, CCW. (1 | 25) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) 4.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Druze Saito ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) DRUZE Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) GROUP 2 6 1 KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) SAITO TOGAN Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 39) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) 4.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Druzos Arslan ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 DRUZE (Fireteam: Haris, X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Viral Pistol, CCW. (1 | 25) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) ARSLAN MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) GROUP 2 7 FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) PEACEMAKER Spitfire + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (1 | 27) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) 4.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Druzos Le Muet ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) CLIPPER DRONBOT Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) GROUP 2 7 2 FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) ARMAND (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 45) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
I would like to add some less complex and time-consuming lists: Druze Bayram Security ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE (Fireteam: Haris, X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Viral Pistol, CCW. (1 | 25) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) GROUP 2 4 SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Had some games with this list now and when you deploy follow the plan of Hunzakut for first turn, Haris for second and Saito for third turn, you have cool ressources fitting a less aggressiv playstile.
Marduck that is a great idea with the holoechos! A good way of creating decoy LTs as well! Holoprojector isn't something I have experimented with but it has amazing potential! Foxep, you also deserve a round of applause for creating a seventeen model Druze list WITH A TAG IN IT! haha! One of the things that interested me most about Pupniks lists was having two groups of around 8 models, as I always tend to build with a ten model group and then a secondary group of about 4 or 5!
I love Scarface and he is easier to take than most think, as he in fact costs 57 points and has 3 wounds, armour 5, CD13, 2 MK12 and a rocket launcher. Thats awesome for me. Moreover, he brings his sister that costs 17 points for a mimetism engineer with combi rifle and chain-colt. So in the end its not 74 points for a 1 order TAG, its 74 for two models, TAG and Engineer, that go in duo, and are very capable each one. In most my tournament lists i have one with him and one without, so he is playing each tournament i go :p
For me the hard part of Druze is what force I actually want to play! I can do Druze themselves, Ikari, and QK. I actually love it!
Aw I hear ya Space Ranger! I am on the verge of expanding into Ikari from DBS, but I think I'll wait until I'm bored of Druze before moving to Ikari! Writing lists with Ikari is a whole different thing, they have a lot more options but I'm not sure if things synergise as well as the DBS lists can! The more I play Druze the more I appreciate what a well designed sectorial it is!
Here's my main list I'm still toying with. I'm also thinking of taking a Scarface based list with a more defensive Druze core link as my second list. Druze Bayram Security ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) CLIPPER DRONBOT Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) GROUP 2 5 SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army So far they've played pretty well, but I am finding it occasionally difficult to deal with smoke. Camo isn't a huge issue as I can FO or sensor stuff in the midfield :) Also so much hacking!!!
(preface: I'm just starting to collect/paint my Druze, so I've no experience with playing them yet myself) I like the core idea here, but I'm leery about the idea of WIP 12 assault hackers. I also don't like the idea of making Druze troopers into lieutenants, since Veteran L1 means they can function well without one, so you may as well use a Druze profile that gets added value. I also put the Hunzakuts in separate groups. That way, you can give one of them something to do with group 2's orders if you don't need to immediately invest heavily into the support functions, and then you free up some orders for group 1 to do its thing. Druze Bayram Security ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 1 BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) CLIPPER DRONBOT Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) GROUP 2 4 2 HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army
I like your adjustment. I'm even inclined to abandon an assault hacker altogether and run a shock marksmen rifle druze in that core link for the same points. I am already running 3 other hackers after all! EDIT: I'm going to run this tonight, with the shock marksmen. I'll let you know how it goes!
From my experience, after winnig local league with druze... It is better not to have more then one hacker in fireteam \ or you can have several, but of the same type. Why? Because different hacking programs - are diffrent AROs, so every hacker would have to make oblivion\redrum etc., and if hacker doesn't have that program - he is IDLE ;(
You sure about that? It sounds like saying shooting a shotgun or a rifle are different AROs. Isnt every hacking attack a... hacking attack?
Yep, it is contrintutive, but it true... Honestly ;) I came to it after reading: The EVO Hacking Device allows use of the Tactical Support Systems, a series of automatic and simultaneous Bonuses: EVO Hacking Device allows the use of Hacking Programs in a Coordinated Order. It is not mandatory for all the Hackers in the Coordinated Order to use the same Hacking Program. And after some sitting on forum terrible truth came out. Bs attack with diffrent weapon is not the same as Hacking attack with different program.. ;(
I have never heard this about the hacking programs! And I have never known anyone to play it thst way either! It'd be good to get some official clarification on this because sometimes people on the forums (with the best intentions) can be accidentally misleading with their rules advice! :-)
Welcome to Infinity, a game never played 100% to rules! :) If you'd carefully read each hacking program description, you'd notice that each of it is a SHORT SKILL, not a BS ATTACK, not a HACKING ATTACK.... So how are you going to performe same ARO with diffrent short skill without breaking fireteam? It is so obvious and so diffrent from bs attack that is played wrongly pretty often ... ;( Or you can read someone who is so much better then me in Inifinty rules here: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/multiple-hackers-in-a-fireteam.3117/#post-40753
Coordinated Order: Hacking Hacking Programs cannot be used in Coordinated Order unless there is a scenario special rule, or the player has a trooper in the Army List possessing a piece of equipment or Special Skill, which specifies otherwise. But that is specified only because of this, in the coordinated order explanation. EDIT: Read the previous post