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PanO LI list jeanne+TAG

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Sangarn, Sep 2, 2019.

  1. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    I need your advice guys for the french satellite this year, I'm not a top player so I don't care showing my lists here :p

    the tournament is in limited insertion and I haven't played LI list for a long time ...
    - acquisition
    - firefight
    - frontline
    - suppremacy
    - supplies

    List A: Jeanne+TIK+Suiss ML

    10 TIK JOAN SGML
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    TIKBALANG HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    SWISS GUARD Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 69)
    HEXA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 32)
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Submachine Gun, Light Rocket Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 9)
    REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)

    7 SWC | 300 Points

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    List B: Jeanne+AQ+Suiss ML

    10 JOAN AQ SGML
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    [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (+1 | 49)
    AQUILA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 62)
    SWISS GUARD Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 69)
    REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    CROC MAN (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ECHO-BRAVO Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)

    7 SWC | 300 Points

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    List C: Jeanne+TIK+smoke guy

    PanOceania
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    TIKBALANG HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    GUARDA DE ASSALTO Spitfire + Heavy Flamethrower, D-Charges + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 51)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_2 Light Shotgun + Eclipse Light Grenade Launcher / Electric Pulse. (- | 6)
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    HEXA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 32)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)

    7 SWC | 298 Points

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    I want strong anti fireteam tool and long range dakka, the helot will always be in marker state

    I don't know If i do two lists for open/close table or sectorial/vanilla opponent

    I also I've tried Squalo lists but they all lokk less good than in varuna ...
     
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  2. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    no one :'( ? Vanilla PanO is a bad idea ? I should go back to Varuna ?
     
  3. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    I'm committing these lists to memory so I can play them later! ... I'm liking everything I see lol
     
  4. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    It's not a Vanilla issue, just that LI isn't very balanced to begin with and puts the more spammy Factions at a inherit disadvantage.
    A lot of people don't think the format works for the game. It takes a lot of the nuanced options away and changes the game into a more arcadey thing.
    Not a fan of putting a huge restriction on versatility just to make 10 Order lists competetive. As far as getting the most out of the restrictions you are pretty good to go with that Joan + Tik list. There aren't many list that can dream to stop 12 Orders worth of rampaging Tikbalang Alphastrike turn 1.
     
  5. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    I agree LI list is no longer a good thing for infinity but it is the TO choice (prolly to speed up the tournament) and it's really a bad new for me ^^
    the thing is a really don't know what to expect in a LI tournament, double TAG ? HI core deathstars ? I never have played against those kind of lists
     
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  6. xammy

    xammy Keeper of Random Facts and Strong Opinions

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    Think about it in terms of averages. In a LI list each troop is on average 30 points. For factions who don't have a lot of high cost power house options, they will focus on that 30 point range to get toolbox type troops.
     
  7. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    at least that mean no warband or muttawi ^^
     
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  8. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    Warbands there will be because any non PanO, non Onyx or OSS player will want his smokes. But you'll see the high cost ones if it can be helped: Myrmidons, Jaguars, Chimeras, Makaul, Dogfaces (McMurrough and Duroc most of the time), Wallace...

    Beware of Impersonators and Oniwaban. It's their favourite set up as there will always be a juicy target. In your lists, you have 0 CoC 4 irregulars.
    I think you should take less irregulars in one of your two lists and bring a CoC. Both of those we have access to are excellent. Choose the one fitting to you.

    I think though that you should consider to take one doctor and one engineer in each of your lists. You can take the Hospitaller Doctor who is excellent in LI if you don't like the idea of picking the Trauma Doc. The EVO Mulebot is also really good if you plan to play a TAG or other Hackers for its supportwares and Exorcism.
     
  9. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    a sepulchre holo as a joan spitfire could do the trick this way it's impossible to know if I have the +1 CAP joan or the Spitfire Joan but ...
    he's crazy expensive: I have to drop the TAG or the swiss guard that give me totally another list

    10 NOTIK JOAN SGML
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    SWISS GUARD Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 69)
    HEXA MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 32)
    KNIGHT OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE (Chain of Command) Spitfire / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 56)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (MediKit) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 39)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)

    7 SWC | 300 Points

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    Krakot or auxilia FO not sure witch one is the best
    or monstrucker why taking an engineer in each list ? just for the random classified ?

    So many options so little time to test it all ^^

    EDIT: actually I miss the point of taking the KoHS because he cost more than Joan I might not get in LoL when he die but it's still a good trade for the speculo (actually Joan is more likely to kill him in close combat statistically speaking, kitsune it's another story ^^)
    also helot is a nice body screen for joan I should be okay
     
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  10. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    I would have thought you would have chosen the Bolt but, yeah, the KotHS is good too.
     
  11. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    Okay so the french satellite is just over and I'm ending up at the 8th place

    anyway the final lists I've used:

    list A

    List A LYON
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    [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    TIKBALANG HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 51)
    KNIGHT HOSPITALLER Doctor (MediKit) MULTI Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 39)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
    KRAKOT RENEGADE Submachine Gun, Chest Mine / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 15)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    ECHO-BRAVO Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 25)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    list B:

    List B LYON
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    [​IMG]6 [​IMG]4
    TIKBALANG HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. ()
    JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 51)
    SWISS GUARD Missile Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 69)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4)
    ZULU-COBRA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    PALBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    HELOT MILITIAMAN Red Fury / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    About the lists!
    _I'm not sold about the swiss guard, too expensive but he actually serve a purpose in both game I've played him
    _the tikbalang is perfect.
    _the helot redfury is very very good, just for the face of my opponent when I announce that it's a neurocinetic redfury xD
    you just have to be careful about positioning, you don't want long range shot on him
    _the krakot did nothing
    _the doc failed all healling rolls ...
    _joan free coordinate order is really good, but as assault trooper she didn't perform well, 15 BS is nice but no mod is meh
    _i'm a huge fan of the echo bravo red fury, ppl tend to not expect him and if he dies it's not huge deal 25 pts/1 CAP, he's nice to clear pesky hackers and weak spécialists


    a good event with nice ppl, I don't really like limited insertion with open table but that probably because of my playstyle

    (list A: close table, list B open table)

    - acquisition - list A
    good table, against a new nomad player: major win, the tikbalang did all the work

    - firefight- list A
    major defeat: the table was a joke zero cover from S7 I got razed turn 1 buy a Cutter ...
    on this table the one who got the first turn wins

    - frontline- list B
    very beautiful table, but bad in term of playability: very hard to check LoS we only have time to do 2 turn ! in limited insertion !! (first time of my life that I don't have time to finish the 3 turn)
    major win, the lack of heavy CAP gun for the IA player gives my TAG a lot of room, the swiss guard did nothing the tikbalang did all the work, then Joan move up to take control

    - supremacy- list B
    another bad "scenic" table, also beautiful but very open
    major win VS corregidor
    horrible first turn, my tikbalang got POS and start shooting and flaming everywhere, killing 3 ppl but end up flash pulsed
    the next turn it's the revenge of the tik ^^ this time the fact that it's impossible to get cover on this table play in my favor and I kill everyone with the tikbalang

    - supplies- list A
    basic but good table
    tie VS ramah, I take first turn and kill tarik with 2 critics from the tik then fail everything
    one kawarij HRL kill joan AND the tikbalang with one shot each (4 fire fail for the tik and 3 fire fail for joan ./suicide)
    he took heavy casualty anyway and I end up with tik repaired and stole a tie with a pure suicide frenzy


    in conclusion: the tikbalang is perfect and PanO generalist is okay and I hate LI xD
     
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  12. lord_dri

    lord_dri Imperial PanO Commander

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    A thing that actually works for me most of the time is to combine great rambo pieces with Joan inspiring leadership and to play accordingly to that strategy.

    if I include a tag i need an engineer and a palbot, peacemaker to create a safe zone to secure my reactive turn. hacker/s to protec my ip/tag, second spear head in case tag is pinned down from here on you can customize however you want.


    PanOceanía
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    [​IMG]7 [​IMG]3
    TIKBALANG Ametralladora,Lanzallamas Pesado, Minas Antipersona / Arma CC AP. (2 | 85)
    [​IMG] CRABBOT Pulso Flash / Cuchillo. ()
    JUANA DE ARCO Teniente Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistola, Arma CC AP. (1 | 51)
    BULLETEER Spitfire / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 23)
    PEACEMAKER Escopeta Pesada + AUXBOT_3 / Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] AUXBOT_3 Lanzallamas Pesado / Pulso Eléctrico. (- | 4)
    SIERRA DRONBOT Ametralladora / Pulso Eléctrico. (1 | 25)
    MONSTRUCKER Subfusil, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 13)
    PALBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
    PALBOT Pulso Eléctrico. (0 | 3)
    PATSY GARNETT Subfusil, Granadas Nimbus Plus / Pistola, Cuchillo, Cargas-D. (0 | 37)
    SARGENTO ESP. (CO:Camuflaje TO, Infiltración, Observ. Artillería) Fusil Combi, Minas Antipersona / Pistola, Cuchillo. (1 | 27)
    WARCOR (Sexto Sentido N1) Pulso Flash / Pistola Aturdidora, Cuchillo. (0 | 3)
    TECH-BEE (Asistente Remoto Nivel 1, Operativo Especialista) Pulso Flash / Pistola, Cuchillo. (0 | 5)

    6 CAP | 296 Puntos

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