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What to do if a FAQ ruling is clearly wrong?

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Hecaton, Jul 8, 2019.

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  1. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Well, only after they checked with everyone else to see if they had a loaner. Given that, I can't see it ever coming down to unit death.

    The real question is what happens if they get deployed somewhere a 55mm base can't fit.
     
  2. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Now that’s a FAQ I don’t like.
     
  3. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Huh? As far as I know that's a situation the rules don't cover.
     
  4. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    For the reason you point out, it’s mechanically bad to not know what base size your model is until after deployment is complete. I dislike this ruling because it causes poor gameplay effects.
     
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  5. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I mean that means we could use a FAQ on the topic.
     
  6. Andre82

    Andre82 Well-Known Member

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    Of course, but you will need that base.
    I would have been more happy with rolling you simply don't get the motorcycle but considering the Faq clearly states booty can be a bad thing then getting the bike and having the correct base has to be mandatory.
    Now if your just flying casual it's not going to be an issue.

    Now I don't really have very many issues with the game that the faqs are not addressing. My main issues are more orginazational now, but I fully believe we are only getting the faqs because the community was on the verge of riot. So I am not really feeling all this concern for op's "tone".
     
  7. Ogid

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    It's more like there is no rule that stop you to use it. It's an automatic equipment giving a passive bonus. The only reason I see for that FAQ is it has a "secret" requirement of the target being a trooper, not an equipment.

    Wow, that would be so over the top, in the worst case (no possibility to get any base) just consider it a null.
     
  8. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    It is covered by the rules. The unit gets IMM-2 until the terrain changes to accommodate the unit or the unit otherwise resolves the situation
     
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    Technically the model will do that if it is in a fenced area or
    will fall if it is not and that would result in a damage roll in deployment...
     
  10. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, there's a few edge cases (hurr hurr hurr) as well where it'll get IMM, then fall, then stop being IMM, I think it was

    Luckily, on a bike the fall increments are fairly generous, so should only be a DAM 10 hit.
     
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  11. Ogid

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    Another option would be choosing the booty level 1 table if the model were in a situation were rolling a bike would be dangerous for it; there is no bike in that one.
     
  12. C0MR4DE

    C0MR4DE Malfunctioning Unidron

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    N3 Frequently Asked Question FAQ Version: 1.1
    Q: Can the bearer of an AI Beacon use the +3 PH Bonus to Airbone Deployment provided by an EVO Hacking Device?
    A: No.
     
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  13. Ogid

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    So? It's very clear for the previous posts we are aware of that FAQ.
    You forgot the part where you make a point
     
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    C0MR4DE Malfunctioning Unidron

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    You told me you can use evo +3 to deploy the AI B. I asked you to copy it here. You did not, so i did. I think it is pretty clear NO on that question.
     
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  15. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Without the FAQ that would be different, however. Tooting your own horn wth circular logic isn't impressing anybody.
     
  16. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Is it? I don't recall anyone ever proving this. There was a circular argument about automatic skills applying as soon as you hit the table.
    its seems more and more FAQ are clarifying that this is not the case as many skills (unless they specify otherwise) only taking effect at the end of deployment (ref. Booty).
     
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    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Nowhere in the rules does it explicitly state that skills work at the end of Deployment. That'd be a good thing to put in the rules, however, if that was intended.
     
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    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Well yeah. Until then there is a FAQ.
     
  19. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Sure, but before the FAQ entry for a specific skill, one couldn't assume that, especially considering an EVO Hacker could affect other deployment skills.
     
  20. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Wait what other deployment skills can an EVO hacker affect?
     
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