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Airborne rangers and surprise attack

Discussion in 'Ariadna' started by Fangoman, May 20, 2019.

  1. Fangoman

    Fangoman New Member

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    Hi everybody, I read that MA level 2 gives to the airborne rangers also the "surprise attack" skill.
    I read in Infinity wiki that, among the other things,:
    EFFECTS
    • If all requirements are satisfied, the user of this CC Special Skill can apply the Surprise Attack MOD when in Close Combat, as shown in the Surprise Attack Chart.
    • The user of this CC Special Skill cannot use Surprise Attack again until it regains the Marker state.
    Now, there`s something I do not get about it...
    The paratroopers are in hidden deployment at the start. At a certain moment, they enter the battlefield but without marker state. When is surprise attack then valid ?
    When they appear on the battlefield ? But it will almost never happen that they enter and automatically engage in CC.
    Is surprise attack valid until they are spotted by an enemy ? Or always valid until their first CC ?
    Is it valid also for shooting at the very first order ?

    Please help me to clarify this topic.
     
  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Surprise Attack only works if you're in a marker state, Airborne don't have any way to enter a marker state so they can never use it.

    This is basically a legacy from early N3 when states like Impersonation didn't automatically grant surprise shot/attack, so a trooper like an Umbra Legate or Interventor with Cybermask could only use surprise attack if they also had martial arts or similar. This was changed in an early errata/FAQ.
     
  3. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Though Airborne rangers have MA and therefore have Surprise Attack – they cannot use it. As the skill states, you need to be attacking out of a marker state, which Airborne Rangers do not have. Surprise attack, among other skills, generally comes bundled with a number of abilities and isn't always useful.
     
  4. Fangoman

    Fangoman New Member

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    Got it !!
    Thanks for the clarification... It sounded strange anyway...
     
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