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Ramah task force feedback

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by Bassie, May 12, 2019.

  1. Bassie

    Bassie Member

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    I had planned to run the list below last night in a game of frontline, but my mate had to bail last second.
    Still, I spent ages thinking through the list, can and thought to ask some feedback.

    Plan hinged around the Ghulam core link team to provide though AROs through sniper and maybe missile launcher, before being a bit of a toolbox to feel with whatever I need to. The combination of smoke and the msv2 kwarij seems strong.
    The Haris team was also an assault piece.
    Group2 is an ARO group, with the monstucker to act as a bit of a speed bump.

    I feel like the list is very obvious in the way it's meant to work, so won't explain it much further unless you ask.

    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L1, Multispectral Visor L2) Mk12 / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]2
    WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 15)

    6 SWC | 295 Points

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  2. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Uh... whose the Nasmats were? I assume the Ghulam Doc would be out of the Fireteam then? And who would be in? The Lt, Naffatun, Khawarij? Leila is obviously meant to go with the Mukthar Haris, being the only model there able to fit in (as a Wildcard).

    Personally, I'd sack the WarCor, and then have 8pts to spend on another Fanous (or maybe - just maybe - a Kameel). Still gets a Flash pulse (with Mimetism to boot), yet adds a Regular Order ot the pool rather than Irregular one to himself.
     
  3. CodeMOIN37

    CodeMOIN37 Member

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    I can see why you’ve put Leila with the Mukhtar link, but I would definitely try and free up a few points to take the mukhtar doctor instead- still a specialist, but means that you can heal out of nwi. This is great for clearing the midboard- you can happily tank the odd mine, heal up and carry on. It allows the mukhtar to be extremely aggressive, which is what they’re there for. Plus Leila’s 4-4 movement will slow the link down. The doctor also brings a boarding shotgun to the link. Also personally I wouldn’t add a hackable unit to a link that’s not otherwise hackable- it’ll limit you in moving about the board freely.

    Also do you think that maybe two
    Msv2 mid range gunfighters is overkill? With only one source of smoke you’re rarely going to be able to use both in a turn- maybe think about swapping the Khawarij out for something to catch you opponent off guard- maybe a nahab or Tuareg hacker.

    I used a similar list in a tournament today- mukhtar are just so, so good, especially in a list with a lot of orders to feed into them.
     
  4. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    I'd just like to point out, that sometimes your opponent brings smoke and having a second MSV2 can be... daunting?
     
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  5. Palomides

    Palomides Well-Known Member

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    Or ODD / TO / a lucky crit. I think building in reliable backup plans makes a lot of sense.
     
  6. Bassie

    Bassie Member

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    Thanks for the feedback all.
    I hadn't considered the Leila issues, thanks heaps.
    I also needed a hacker for the remote.

    The plan with the doctor plus:
    Should I not have first turn, place a nasmat next to the two snipers, yes with the doc in the link.
    That way, should the hortak be on one wound, it is worth breaking the link to heal him.
    If the sniper Ghulam goes down, as I expect he probably will, is need to re-form the link anyway. In both cases, I expect my opponent will expend extra orders to kill them rather than leave them unconcious if there is a nasmat beside them.

    Your comments make me wonder if the LT should be in the second group, but guessing I couldn't use the NCO ability then.
     
  7. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    The doctor can’t be in a fireteam if she’s assigned nasmats. Also, you can’t just have unassigned nasmats hanging out.

    You are correct about the LT having to be in the same group as the NCO model.

    As @CodeMOIN37 mentioned, it’d be worth having something like a Tuareg in your list. Infiltration is a wonderful tool to have. The AD guy would be another good option.
     
  8. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Still, having the Doc outside of the link (with Nasmats assigned) is a perfectly fine option as long as your link is defensive in nature.

    This way Doc can keep close to the link to provide healing herself, and use appropriately placed Nasmats to heal other models.
    Having Doc in a link is, IMO, advisable in case of offensive links - you have Doc at hand, rather than having to spend Orders on bringing one (or a Nasmat) up from the rear.

    The trick, however, is to have the Doc with her Nasmats, and a 5-man Core - that's a lot of Ghilim usually. Luckily for Ramah, and your list, both Khawarij and Naffatun count as Ghilim. Personally I'd fill the team up with the Naffatun and let the Khawarij hunt alone, but I can imagine situations where having the Mk12 Khawarij using fireteam bonuses would be advantageous, even though it hinders his mobility.
     
  9. CmdrSandmann

    CmdrSandmann Well-Known Member

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    According to the wiki, that doesn't matter:
    "To be able to use this Special Skill it is not compulsory that the owner and the Lieutenant belong to the same Combat Group."
     
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  10. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    Oops. Definitely missed the word “not” there...
     
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