Hello, Like in the title, can you do it? I think i saw it played by other players, and i cant find anything that would forbid it. If so, i have to mark the position/board edge at that very moment, right? Cheers
You mean, declare an AD troop as your Reserve? Or rather deploying an AD troop using AD upfield as your reserve model...?
@Hecaton , writing down parachutist zone of deployment NOT dependent on having such a model in reserve. rules state you must write down it during own deployment. so you eigther do it in main deployment part (MY opinion) or you can do it during reserved models placement time (most people here decide it legal). but both of these are your own deployment phase, & it NOT related to place Parachutist in question in reserve.
back to topic - i sometimes use such tactic. for example i place Yuan in reserve if i afraid of enemy reserved model be placed close to my deployment zone (impersonators, infiltrating camo, etc). if i see such a treat - i try counter it with Yuan & his trustworthy chain rifle, if not - i place reserved Yuan in AD. the same way could be placed Bashi bazouk. if using only holoprojector L1 you even can disguise your chain colt 12 point man-mine for a while. placing HD sniper or even ordinary fighter as the last model to counter your enemy plan & set a trap for his attackers - also a good tactic.
Oh, standard trick here is asking your opponent to keep his eyes off the board (turn around or leave the room) while you deploy your Hidden Deployment models. Usually accompanied with taking a pic with your phone. Whether you actually have any HD in your list or not. You might just as well have an AD model. Of course, it doesn't work if your army has no HD available at all.
I don't think you can use the Parachutist skill before deciding to deploy the model (since you have the option of deploying them on the table). Ergo if you have one Parachutist model and its your reserve you get to decide when deploying your reserve.
what makes you not think so? & if you are right - why using only ONE AD:Parachutist is more profitable in this case than using two for example? (poor Ariadna) the question is still open despite the answer from the FAQ, but my opinion (depending on mentioned answer) what you must write down the landing zone for parachutists during main forces deployment... cause you are doing it for ALL of them even if you have only one parachutist in question.
That's true. I forgot that it's for all Parachutist models, not one. The rule states Deployment phase, and that could really be at any time.
I presume it has to be done as soon as that deployment skill is used - which, if you only have 1 and it's your reserve, won't be until the "deploy reserves" step.
@Hecaton even if you "USE" a skill right the moment you send parachutist in AD, skill still say you must write down the deployment zone during Deployment phase, the FAQ say it must be YOUR part of deployment phase. i cant see anything that makes you do it right the moment you deside send Parachutist in AD or not, or place it in reserve. it is not tied things at all. of course it seems not good, but for now it so. also just think that you chose not the destination of particular parachutist, but the landing zone for the Aircraft which should deliver AD troops to their destination. Only question - could you decide this location "during flight", when you close to battlefield or from the moment of departure...
Having a brain fart... how does this change (or does it?) when downgrading to AD:2 later in the game?
@Sabin76 - in no way. only AD Level1 : Parachutist need write down their deployment segment during deployment phase. it only all Ariadna paratroopers & Bashi Bazouks
Anyway, if you only have one Parachutist I see no reason you could not wait until your reserve deployment to make the segment decision - so long as that model is your reserve model.
Hi, @toadchild if you re-read all written you realize, that using your logic you even not need place AD: parachutist trooper in the reserve. you just write down his deployment segment during your own deployment phase, in the moment you place the reserved model. even OTHER reserved model. yes, you still CAN do it with placing Parachutist in reserve, but it NOT necessery.
I don't think their skill is written terribly well in this regard, but I choose to take a conservative reading - basically, I view it that you need to perform all of that skill block's text when you use the skill. So during deployment, when I "deploy" my Bashi by setting them aside, I need to at that point determine which board edge they are coming in. So if I want to make that decision during reserves, I need to not have deployed any parachutists until I place my reserve. But like I said, it's not very explicit. I'm just trying to play it safe.
Your basic argument is that even if you don't hold the Parachutist as your reserve model you can choose the Parachutist zone during your reserve step because the requirement is to make this decision 'During the Deployment Phase' and the reserve step is part of the deployment phase. This is the same logic that allowed Symbiomates to be placed during the reserve step not at the moment the Kaeltar was deployed ('During the Deployment Phase...'). The was explicitly stopped by FAQ. The general rule is that during the reserve step you can only make decisions that affect the reserve trooper. This is not explicitly stated but has become to be understood over a long period of discussing deployment decisions. Moreover it's coherent with all the rulings we have seen on decisions taken 'during deployment'. That being said while I find this a reasonable interpretation based on what we know from other rules I do acknowledge that based purely on RAW you have an argument. That being said the strictest reading allows you to make this decision during Player 2s last figure step, regardless of whether you are Player 1 or 2. So I find the fact that your not making that argument disengious. @Arkhos94 can you add this to the list: Can you choose the segment that Parachutist later use to deploy during your 'last figure' step? Even if your last figure is not a Parachutist? A. Yes. The last figure step is part of the deployment phase so it is valid to wait until this step to make your decision B. No. You must write down which segment your Parachutists will deploy via unless your last figure is a Parachutist. If your last figure is a Parachutist you may make this decision during the last figure step. C. No. You must write down which segment your Parachutists will deploy via unless your last figure is the only Parachutist in your list. If your last figure is your only Parachutist you may make this decision during the last figure step. If you have other Parachutists in your list you must make this decision during the main deployment step. D. No. You must write down which segment your Parachutists will deploy via during your Deployment Step irrespective of whether you have a Parachutist as your last figure or not. Edit: added in @JoKeR's position. @Arkhos94 can you update please.