I've noticed that most people seem to shy away from the Igao as a good inclusion into lists and I'd like to here your thoughts about the unit. I've really come to embrace the swarm playstyle and once you aim for 17+ orders, 25 points for a single unit better be worth it. Yet, I still somehow find myself fielding the Igao in about a third of my lists und he often often lifts a lot of weight. To be fair though, sometimes, he just falls flat and dies in his first encounter. That might be my fault, though. In my oppionion, one of the best uses for this unit is to hunt TAGs or order monkeys. Granted, i-kohl won't work against a TAG, but at CC25 when using Martial Arts lvl 3, that does not really matter. When there is no TAG on the battlefield, he still is a formidable alpha striker who often eats a lot of my opponents orders. It's also nice to keep the enemy guessing. Is this camo marker a Libertos? A Clipsos mine? If so, where did I place the clipsos? Or is it an Igao? I'd be interested in your oppinion on the Igao and maybe gain some strategic intel on how you use him.
I rarely use him because I prefer taking clipsos for the same points but the few times I used him he was worth. In my meta I rarely see expensive solo units close to the middle. The expensive stuff stays back in the DZ (swiss guard hmg) so a melee specialist would need to many orders to become useful
Yeah, it is only ordinary camo for the same price as a clipsos that has TO. If the Igao at least had superior infiltration it might be worth to risk the roll from time to time. At least it is an anti-material CCW, which might be useful in some missions.
agree with the above. in swarm for those points you want a guy doing something unique. killing guys in the backlane as a camo token is actually worse than just bringing a triad across for the same job. what i mean is the igao essentially starts off an extra two orders ahead, but has to spend more orders to get in to position than a triad would in swarm. in smaller order pools the igao is better, but swarm reaches a critical mass of orders where the igao lags behind
I used to think the Igao was hot garbage. Couldn't get past "worse camo + higher cost" vs a Clipsos. But I had a tourney recently that ran Looting and Sabotaging, so I gave the Igao a go in my LI Gorgos list. In that event and in the training games leading up to it, I used it like this; Spearheaded an attack team to take down Joan of Arc in a Joan, chaff Cutter+Seraph list. Broke a box in Looting and Sabotaging, then locked down a Varuna haris in melee before being sensorshot out of it. Lured a Kornak haris out, stabbed him, he tanked and berserker killed it but was left largely exposed for the mighty Gorgos to cut down. Failed an infiltrate roll, then legged it up using the shotgun to kill a camo heckler through an ARO piece. Then died. Had a roughly 1.5-2:1 ratio of games where he was pretty mediocre to games where he did something important. In those other games he was mainly a shit Clipsos, and was either an order monkey, died immediately, or hid and wished he had mines. Now I still still he's not fantastic, but he has his uses. Mainly, the Igao is good for situations that a Clipsos is not good. This is mainly either hunting something tough or hard to shoot, or mission specific objectives such as smashing objective markers (particularly on the melee only missions). I actively don't like him as a striking piece as he lacks superior infiltration to land effectively, and isn't good enough to spend orders bringing up from the midfield. He has some game in combat orientated missions as the nanopulsar, CC or shotgun are all abilities that our standard Clipsos doesn't bring to the table. But even then I'd probably run two Clipsos first before considering an Igao if I really wanted a third infiltrator. Generally, I felt he was expensive for what he did (yes, we are spoiled by Clipsos) and mostly I felt him worth it specifically on box smashing missions. A little too niche for my tastes, would love to see superior infiltration or a price cut to give him either a better defined niche or more relevance in a field with a 25pt TO trooper. Also would it be too much to have the nano on the shotgun profile too?
Can you explain this as I cant see how its anything more then incompetence by your opponent. We have only one camo marker, and its a beast in close range, why would you bring a kornak haris towards it?
also i think it is perfectly reasonable to say the igao isn't as good as the clipsos for 25 points. sure other armies might want the igao, but other armies prolly want the clipsos more. what i mean is just because he would be good in other factions doesn't make him good in tohaa. he is fun to play tho, and i really love the action pose cc weapon mini he has
Not sure I fully understand this. There are at least four different things a camo marker could be in Tohaa, depending on where it's deployed and assuming it isn't deployed prone. (For ref: A forward deployed/infiltrated minelayer mine An igao A libertos A clipsos using a lower level of camo)
They had to deal with the Igao to travel through the midfield, and decided that jinking into melee with two dudes, then berserking, was better than shooting up close with Mk12 Kornak or weaker raktoraks against the mimetism and shotgun. Not necessarily what I would have done, but against a -3 and +6 theres an argument to smackdown instead of risk losing engagements I guess.
Would play him if it had special operative for one more point. Else, concurrence is too strong (clipso fo)
