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Janissaries in Ramah

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by ambisinister, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    My personal preference for HI links is to play them aggressively and move them up the table, but the Janissary load outs aren't quite as amenable to that style of play as say the Asawira in HB or the Wu Ming over in ISS. The addition of that shiny Hortlak Sniper makes me feel like they should be in the DZ even more. Anyone have ideas on how to run our HI effectively?
     
  2. vorthain

    vorthain Veteran Novice

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    If you throw in the Namurr spitfire and/or Hortlak SMG and lean toward the profiles with BSG or APR+LSG instead of HMG or ML, it seems like they'd be fine. You'd be in the 150-180 pt territory with plenty to spend on other stuff for your DZ (Hortlak sniper, Shihab).
     
  3. Palomides

    Palomides Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking a lot about this, because Jans are so cool. Here's a Core I'm interested in, although I don't really know about how to flesh it out.

    Ramah Pain Train
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    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40)
    JANISSARY Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 31)
    HORTLAK (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 59)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) 4 SWC | 300 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
  4. vorthain

    vorthain Veteran Novice

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    Tarik in addition to Janissary Core is a lot of points. I would consider dropping the Janissary HMG and just put Tarik in the link, which would free you 40/2 for maybe a Shihab HMG and another Ghulam or Naffatun, or Rafiq to go with Leila in a Duo and a Hakim to drop in later.
     
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  5. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    Playing with 11-12 orders is not always sensible though.
     
  6. vorthain

    vorthain Veteran Novice

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    Sometimes, but if its a Shihab and mook in group 2, or the Hakim waiting for to be moved to Grouo 1, it doesn't seem too detrimental. Obviously we wouldn't want, say, a Rafiq + Leila Duo alone in Group 2.
     
  7. Palomides

    Palomides Well-Known Member

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    I like Tarik as a solo attack piece to supplement the core. Pain train + FAT2 Rambo can be a lot to deal with.
     
  8. The Littlest Teapot

    The Littlest Teapot New Member

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    As a primarily Vanilla player up to the release of Ramah... I can confirm, that Tarik is plenty good as a solo attack piece. Keeping him out of the link can be incredibly useful, especially if you want to set him up somewhere in suppressive fire.

    Tarik can be a major headache all on his own, just as an ARO piece. Then, if they decide to ignore him, he can swoop in and hit them where it hurts.

    Get Tarik into a choke point and into suppressive fire and then flank with the Jann-Fireteam. This seems like it would be incredibly effective way to put your enemy between a rock and a hard place.
     
  9. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    Ive got a list idea involving Tarik spit, namurr rifle, hortlak smg, hortlak sniper, and jan doc as a core team that moves up table ravaging aro units then splits off into a tarik/namurr duo and hortlak/jan as a 3 man core to hold the midfield.
     
  10. Triumph

    Triumph Well-Known Member

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    Given that Tarik isn't allowed to Duo you'd be cheating unfortunately.
     
  11. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    Ah....oops
     
  12. TriggerPuller9000

    TriggerPuller9000 Poverty Orde Wingate

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    Ramah Taskforce
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    [​IMG]9 [​IMG]1
    HORTLAK (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40)
    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 59)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    I would absolutely try this as it seems to tick your boxes.

    1) Pain train. Hortlak Sniper handles long fire lanes. Leila handles hackers. Doctor picks them back up. CoC Hortlak for Tarik.
    2) Tarik does great solo. He's a Wildcard so he can Duo with the Rafiq if necessary.
    3) Rafiq for sensor/triangulated fire/repeater attacks through Leila.
    4) Monstrucker to watch Tarik's back...I think they're a great combo.

    IMO it won't play as well as a Tarik-focused list but that's mainly due to my bias against HI links that aren't backed up by tons of cheap orders (i.e., Wu Ming in ISS).
     
  13. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I have been playing this list with good success:

    Ramah Taskforce
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    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40)
    JANISSARY AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 36)
    JANISSARY Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 31)
    HORTLAK (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    GHULAM Lieutenant HMG / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L2) Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 32)
    KHAWARIJ (Fireteam: Haris, NCO) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 30)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    Two eligible Core teams, along with a Haris Khawarij with Spitfire, and Leila. You can setup whatever attack vector you want. NCO Ghulam can lay smoke if necessary, or the LT order can be used to move the Haris up. The Ghulam LT does pretty good job being an unexpected attack vector as well. CoC Hortlak has his back.
     
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  14. k104agi

    k104agi Well-Known Member

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    1Group+Janni Core + Skirmishers
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    [​IMG]10
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37)
    JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40)
    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    TUAREG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)
    HAKIM Submachine Gun, Chain-colt + 1 Nasmat A2 / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] NASMAT A2 Electric Pulse. (0 | 4)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    5+3+2
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    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37)
    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    6 SWC | 299 Points
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    Frontal War
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    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37)
    TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 59)
    HORTLAK (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    6 SWC | 300 Points
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    My 2(or 3) cents
     
  15. wisefaiz

    wisefaiz Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't the Namuur rifle profile come with Duo?
     
  16. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Yes, but that's irrelevant as Tarik can only join Haris and Core Fireteams as a Wildcard.
     
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  17. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I'd maybe think this...

    Ramah Taskforce──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40) JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37) HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36) HORTLAK Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28) LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) 6 SWC | 299 PointsOpen in Infinity Army
     
  18. Ariwch

    Ariwch Tournament benthotic lurker

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    Could you say, what do you plan to do with Nasmat in this list?
     
  19. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I did not know this! Is it the same with Leila?
     
  20. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    No, Tarik has special conditions attached to his Wildcard.
     
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