In recent renewal, we got new options. 1) Shaytaniyah Remote + Al Fasid in Ramah 2) Shaytaniyah Remote + Azrail in QK Each option uses up at least 3 SWC and 57~61pts. Personally I don't think any of these earn its keep. Although this, I post this thread to ask if there are any insights I am missing. Any thoughts, fellow Haqqislamites?
Why even bother linking two units that probably won't leave your DZ, in such a way that they're bound to one another but don't gain any bonus to B, SSL2, or BS? I really don't understand the logic behind these team options.
What @TriggerPuller9000 said - I'm yet to hear what is the reason behind it. Personally, I fail to see one...
I have absolutely no idea, apart from that its maybe futureproofing...it could make sense in following ITS seasons or in a big rules update.
I feel it's utterly pointless. There's never a moment where you want to move the missile bot around much. I would love a Fasid + Rafiq or Azra'il + Rafiq combo though, that could be useful with any profile except the Feuerbach one.
I agree with @emperorsaistone . The only rationale I see is if remotes have some new benefit. In a major change versus older versions of the game, in the last year, every faction can include a remote in a fireteam whereas previously this never occurred. Seems very intentional beyond simply more fireteam options.
something of unknown origin will hack into the REM network with great strength and make them all extremely impetuous, that is why you'll need them in a fireteam.
Or on my shelf. Otherwise, I can see you wanting to duo a couple of ARO pieces you only want to be stepping into a firelane on turn two. Start the game with both in Total Cover, spend only one order to have them step forward without using a command token... It's a stretch but it's all I can think of.
I only see this as a means to plug in a wild card. Al Fasid HMG marching forward with Leila Sharif seems way better than any nonsense with a smart missile launcher. Or possibly in Biotechvore, where you have to move?
Ok, I've reread this and I agree, someone in the fireteam need fireteam Duo skill, and that is not the HI. This asymmertry is awful. I get it now, but how will I remember? How will I know my opponent's fireteams are legal? This is a mess.
Maybe it's a means of maneouvering your ARO pieces into new, cross-board lanes? A tiny bit of order efficiency, and you'd get to guarantee one of them made it through a firelane or repeater network? I think the intended lies between the active and reactive turns. The remote can be given Enhanced Reaction up to B2, so it's a decent ARO piece, or Assisted Fire to deny cover. The HI will have only B1 in the reactive turn, so is more of an active piece, in a way that the remote isn't. This way, they are able to support each other moving in and out of Total Cover for 1 order?
It definitely seems super... weird Like, how to leverage that? I don't know. The Al Fasid is a great troop in general and I wish they could duo with a Rafiq so much but oh well. Shanitaya is a bizarre choice. I almost want to try it just so I can see what happens.
I'll give it a go but I'll need to come up with a list and honestly the SWC drain is pretty harsh... Hmmm let's see
This is my thought. The ML and Al'Fasid HMG is not great...but the Al'Fasid Duo'd with Leila whose a wildcard? That is very good. Lets you go on a semi-rambo run draging your specialist with you. Plus Leila KHD can protect the Fasid from AHD midfielders. I also do this with the Rafiq FTO and Leila.
I thought we've already come to the consensus that since it is the Shaytanyah who has the Fireteam: Special Duo (and not the Al Fasid), there is no way to put Al Fasid in a Fireteam that doesn't contain a Shaytanyah. It is, hovewer, perfectly possible to put a Shaytanyah FTO (because of all Al Fasid and Shaytanyah profiles - 4 in total - this is the only one with Fireteam: Duo) in a Duo that contains Al Fasid - or a Wildcard. Which, however, sends us back to Square One: what for, effendi?
Oh thats true...I guess I just put the Duo onto the Fasid....huh. Why cant we have fireteam S5's? Everyone else does... "Al'Fasid counts as Ghulam...."
Or at least, "Azra'il counts as Janissary" :P ...fluff-wise, they're ex-Janissaries of the Sultan's bodyguard, they should be intimately familiar with Janissary fireteam drill... But, alas, we had our time for wishlisting and guessing the future. Time is to make use of what the fate brought us.
The HMG Azrail keeps shooting in the active turn, while the ML drone moves to a position to aro. Or they merrily advance up the table like a man and his loyal dog?