How about that Dahshat mercenary company, huh?

I need a sad emoji reaction button :(

 

Yeah, I can't say I'm overly happy with this update.

 

It almost feels like an intended face-slap.

We were able to maintain cool despite some rag-tag mercs take one of IA's selling points...

Now they got our top dog. LOL.

 

So should we call this secto The Invincible Fruit Basket now?

 

The Invincible Salad

 

I feel the YJ part of Dashat feel wildly out of place anyway. It's probably mostly due to aesthetics, but something about this irks me to no end. I know these are supposed to be Uyghur troops but it just doesn't seem right that these are comprised of some of the newest toys of YJ, like the Zhencha, Hulang and Zuyong Fireteams.

Add to that the exculusive Zuyong/Rui Shi fireteam which should really be in IA and you've completely lost me.

Otherwise I really like Dashat and I'd have loved to see new Kaplans in there instead of the Zuyong.

 

Ok, if they have time to continue tweaking the Dashat, at the cost of Invincible losing part of their identity,they'd better take their time to add some improvements to Invincible, a sectorial so heavily punished with limitations that it's starting to feel outdated.

Rui Shi wildcard in Invincible, when? :P
And fix the damned Shang Ji and Guijia.

 

Is this in line with the Army PDF? or is there none for Dahshat?

also, how does the fluff explain this?
I mean why would person X from faction Y which its super duper equipment/training from that faction with hardcore indoctrination since birth/childhood/convicition, join a bunch of rag tag mercenary forces?

 

There is none for Dashat, was the first I have done when I read about it.

 

Now we can wait for White Banner without any IA distractions and hope it won't be obsolete 3 months after release. There is a chance that CB will slightly update IA with Krit release. I don't care about guija. I want shang ji to be useful.

 

At this point it almost feels like they knew IA would be barely functionnal and purposefully designed dashat as a back-up sectorials for zuyongs to increase sales.

I mean, seriously, the dashat zuyong team doesn't even have to choose between hacking protection and MSV2 goodness for their fireteam, they can have both!

Dahshat Company
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5
ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)

5.5 SWC | 151 Points

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This is not the first time I hear about invincible salads...

Well, they have only one Shang-Ji sculpt, and it's old enough I'm not even sure if it's still in production.
At the same time, there's hardly a reason to have yet another line HI.
Sooo no reason to fix their profiles :P

Frankly, between CB druze-ing IA, slightly homogenizing some other factions, releasing those questionable Shas and especially Haqq things, I feel like Daedalus is probably the worst thing that happened to this game since I've joined in 2017.

It looks almost like GW took over and, among other things, brought younger version of Matt Ward to write new armies.

Hey guys, anyone needs a fine collection of Haqq minis, plus most of new IA-related (and 100% dashat-compatible) minis? Almost all are assembled, some of them primed, the package comes in plastic boxes with foam trays.
:P

 

@Joametz Little army update, Dashat now has access to the tactical awareness zuyong HMG.

 

They now have access to ENTIRE Zuyong profiles which IA boasted about. :(

 

Seriously, it's the HMG TacAwr profile what makes the difference as it automatically allows to have an extra order generating heavy gunner. Thanks to that Dashat can now run both an aggressive core and aggressive haris in the same way as IA, but allowing for more flexibility. Thanks to the Rui Shi repeater, which is a unit far more reliable to link than IA's Panguling FTO, you can have Valeria in the other link and still extend her influence. Really, if they are going to keep the HMG Tac Awar profile then the Zuyong AVA should be reduced to 2.

Invincible "Dashat" Army
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GROUP 1 9 1 1
ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20)
MIRANDA ASHCROFT Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 23)
BOUNTY HUNTER Submachine Gun, Akrylat-Kanone / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
ZÚYŎNG (Tactical Awareness) HMG / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
ZÚYŎNG (Fireteam: Haris, Tactical Awareness) Combi Rifle + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 34)
VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
KUM Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 10)
GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

GROUP 2 2 2
NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism) Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LIBERTO (CH: Mimetism) Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)

6 SWC | 299 Points

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All these Dashat rosters are great. consequently my zeal for IA diminishes.

Yeah I know its a childish ranting, but many people including myself had waited for honorable Invincibles in action.

I was happy for their final releases, had some good time with it. I wanted that army shine just like ISS did. Impervious gaming style, the good old army and most importantly, uniqueness.

Zuyong TA HMG was the lynchpin of IA uniqueness if you ask me; They can use Zuyongs, yeah, if it fits the fluff but well..

All those Dashat lists are cool, and maybe someday I'll be tempted to play it myself.

Still, I waited IA.. I will still play it.. But it is bitter to see our long waited sectorial considered 'outshined'.

 

Well, if the other units in Dahshat are good, then it makes sense that the other units in IA that Dahshat doesn't have also have to be good, but most of IA's unique profiles play second fiddle to Zuyong.

Ergo, IA's other profiles need to get optimized. Shang-Ji should be a major selling point of the sectorial, Zhencha need to be able to run and good to rin at high AVA, Liu Xing need to be good enough not to be a gimmick (read: really expensive solo Zuyong), and there needs to be a point and atttaction running Guijia that is reasonably explained through the rules.
Daoying and Haidao can't be the sole draws, they're good but they are no Su-Jian, Proxies, Noctifiers nor Fiday.

As it is, Ghulam have better optimized gear and stats than Zhanshi, the Zhanshi Doctor and Engineer can't link, and the extended AVA on combat remotes are stand alone - and as such eclipsed by Zuyong, as well.

 

I'm not sure if I should be impressed that it only took one major army release for this to happen already or disappointed that it only took one major army release for this to happen already.