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Haqqislam's Finest: Ramah Taskforce Tactica and Hub

Discussion in 'Haqqislam' started by Pride of Rodina, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. ik3rian

    ik3rian Anti-Ariadnian Specialist

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    It is really hard for me to not play with dirtcheap Ghazis and Daylamis, also this sectorial has too much goodies to fit into one list. For now, i'm feeling this one most
    Ramah Taskforce──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L2) Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 32)
    KHAWARIJ Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 28)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM (Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, E/Mauler / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    5 SWC | 300 Points
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  2. Sangarn

    Sangarn TRIUMcorp CEO
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    "launch the crit wave !"
    [...]
    "sir they are all dead !"
    "launch the second wave!"
    "The crit is great"

    2 Fireteam of 3 (haris and core of 3)

    MINMAX FAT2 FTFREEWIN
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    //HARIS//
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L2) Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 32)
    KHAWARIJ (Fireteam: Haris, NCO) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    KHAWARIJ Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 30)
    //HARIS2//
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L2) Spitfire / Pistol, AP CCW. (1.5 | 32)
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L1, Multispectral Visor L2) Mk12 / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)

    NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAHAB Red Fury, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (1 | 36)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    WARCOR (360º Visor) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

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  3. TriggerPuller9000

    TriggerPuller9000 Poverty Orde Wingate

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    I'm interested to try this...

    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 59)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1
    KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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    The weirdest thing in there is the EVO repeater to give B2 to the Fanous-on-the-loose, since RTF is going to take it hard and deep in the reactive turn.

    It has a couple FT options and you could potentially use all three. Off the bat, I'm thinking defensive Ghulam link, Tarik + 2 Mukhtars, and Leila + Sneaky Rafiqi as a duo.
    - Defensive link defends
    - Tarik takes a midfield position and sprays fools...at the end of the turn, he hops a roof and 2/3 of those guys suppress
    - Duo is kind of a pincer...Leila is on the loose killing enemy infowar and the bot boosted with Marksmanship kills targeted enemy ARO pieces that are too dangerous to risk Tarik.

    Weaknesses - it doesn't have CoC and, IMO, Ramah on the whole has a problem with reactive turn due to (1) poor midfield presence and (2) mediocre AROs.
     
  4. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    If you intend on using the rafiq aggressively, maybe swap it into group 2? Right now you’ve got 4 orders in there without much to spend them on. You could swap in Leila as well if you want to link them.
     
  5. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Due to a lack of foresight, I went for another game of Hunting Party today (last one was on Friday, my Hassassins vs Stiopa's Shasvasti).
    This time, however, I was facing Morats

    Morat Aggression Force
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    KURGAT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    KORNAK Lieutenant Mk12, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 41)
    RAKTORAK Combi Rifle + Heavy Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    YAOGAT MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 34)
    SURYAT Vulkan Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 37)
    SURYAT Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 39)
    SURYAT HMG + TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 45)
    MED-TECH OBSIDON MEDCHANOID Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    SLAVE DRONE Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    ZERAT Hacker (EI Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    IKADRON (Baggage, Repeater) 2 Light Flamethrowers, Flash Pulse / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 9)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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    with the newly released Ramah.

    Ramah Taskforce
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    NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)
    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37)
    HORTLAK Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    HORTLAK Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    NAMURR Spitfire, E/Marat, D-Charges / Heavy Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Knife. (1 | 44)
    TUAREG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)

    4 SWC | 300 Points

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    Both of my Classifieds required getting to the HVT (Follow-up & HVT: Kidnapping).
    Taking first Active turn.

    Observations:
    • Nahab Airmobile. Did fine clearing the Zerat Hacker with Stun Pistol. Which opened an approach vector for my Jannissaries. Late in the game she also managed to activate the antenna on the left, though I was unlucky enough to fail to activate it in my first attempt.
    • Touareg. Had to remain in HD, as the entire enemy fireteam ran through her position. But she managed to get to the antena on the right, and activate it (on her second attempt!). Good enough.
    • Rafiq Red Fury. Did nothing noteworthy, but that's because I had no Orders to spend on it. Got fried by the Suryat with Vulcan Shotgun.
    • The Fireteam - two Janissaries, two Hortlak Jannissaries and Namurr. Namurr's 6-2 Move was pretty useful for Order efficiency, she took down the Yaogat sniper (alowing the Nahab to land and deal with the hacker), then glued down the Kurgat with ADHL. The Hortlaks didn't had a chance to shine, but they were inexpenisve team fillers, and with their SMG / Blitzen loadouts, they provided me with useful defensive troops. Janissary ML counted to her name the MedChanoid, Ikadron, and Raktorak (who carelessly wandered into her line of fire on my opponent's Active turn), then took a bullet from the HMG, and on my next turn followed the enemy team. She took down the HMG, but was eventually AROed by the HRL, and died. The Doc managed to Follow up the HVT (on his second try), and fail to Kidnap the HVT (I had no Orders for a retry).
    • Special mention goes to the Najjarun, who was trading point-blank shots with the last Suryat, managed to wound it, withstand all attempts at Stunning him, and finally dealt a crippling blow to the HI with a parting shotgun blast.
    • The Naffatun, well, didn't had much to do, so simply sat on her butt in cover. Kornak was trying to get to her in last desperate move, but failed.
     
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  6. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    Thook these five units in a list, thinking "Eh I dont need a core, I will just haris up the board and these guys can watch my back li-wait...:counts: These guys all count as Ghulam...I HAVE A CORE!"
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  7. LoganGarnett

    LoganGarnett Well-Known Member

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    Ramah in a nutshell XD
    You don't see a Core? No? But it exists..
     
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  8. TriggerPuller9000

    TriggerPuller9000 Poverty Orde Wingate

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    Played a game with this list today vs. Tohaa. We were playing MICS with 3 private objectives and 3 shared objectives revealed each turn (Texas Holdem, 3 in the river).

    I took first turn in the roll-off. I could have potentially taken second turn and used a command token + links to mitigate damage but I wanted to take Tarik for a test drive and figured 10-2+2 LT orders would net me 10 orders to pump into Space Marine Bin Laden...why not.

    Tarik and the 2 Mukhtar spent the first turn maneuvering against opponents and picking off triad members using Superjump. The majority of my orders went into this effort, netting me 5 enemy down. I ended the Tarik Purge (tm) with Tarik on a second level rooftop prone on suppression, the Mukhtar viral rifle on suppression, and the boarding shotgun Mukhtar netting an objective point.

    My second order pool focused on (1) protecting Tarik and preparing for Reactive. The Monstrucker climbed the building that Tarik was hiding in, in the midfield, plopped a drop bear by the stairs to his position and went on Suppression. The EVO JamielTheKameel dropped B2 on all of the flash pulse bots.

    Without details, the rest of the turns proceeded in much the same fashion...re-linking, engaging targets with B5 Tarik in the Haris, then defending these troops in the reactive turn.



    Lessons Learned

    Ramah struggles in the reactive turn. Overclocking a Rafiq and 3x Fugazi is critical to mid to long-range AROs. The Monstrucker's climbing plus and surplus of orders was critical for ensuring near defense. I was extremely impressed by the Monstrucker and really believe that, with creative use of orders, she can protect a midfield jumpy unit like Tarik or the Khawarij Spitfire very well.

    Ramah's tools of the trade (Viral and Nanopulsers) are less effective against high-BTS aliens. Definitely fall back on high B conventional bullets in these matchups.

    Statistics tell us Tarik will crit ~40% of the time throwing 5 dice. Number of crits rolled with Fatality L2 Tarik in a 3-link in this game: 0. Not complaining at all, because he generally killed everything he aimed at, but the internet meltdown over this unit is overblown. FWIW, I rolled 6 or 7 FTF rolls with Tarik which equates to 24-35 dice depending on whether he was in a team at the time.

    As a Haris component, Tarik is great. I like being able to roll him into the midfield and shoot fools with 5 dice, then jump out of the link using his 2 LT orders and set up defensively. Last order includes command token to slap Suppressive Fire on everyone.
     
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  9. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    Against semi-competent AROs (so generally units of different quality in a Core) Fat2 with B5 provides something like +10-17%, which is an equivalent of +2 BS (think less that Mimetism) against linked line troopers, or along the lines of what addition of Full Auto L2 does to your odds against linked mimetics with average BS.

    It is considerable against stronger mods, but not that unprecedented as you would think listening to some people including myself.
     
  10. Masebs

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    Ramah Taskforce
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    JANISSARY Missile Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 37)
    JANISSARY Akbar Doctor (MediKit) AP Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 41)
    HORTLAK (Chain of Command) Submachine Gun, Blitzen / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    KHAWARIJ (Fireteam: Haris, NCO) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    KHAWARIJ Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 30)
    TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 55)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    4.5 SWC | 298 Points

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    Played a few games of Ramah so far, did this list against a Tohaa LI list in Annihilation. Got to say, the Jann ML is brutal if you aren't shooting at it with the right guns. Tarik picked off anything that got close while the core held down longer firelanes. Once the board was a little more open the Haris moved up and managed to pick off a good amount of models. Highlights for them are jumping them on top of a building, breaking the link and coordinating specfire grenades at the models (3) behind the building. Khawarij feel a little weak just sitting in the middle of the board, even with cover they go down too easily to bullets and chain rifles. The Janns providing cover for them helped a lot. This was my first game with Tarik, I think I put one wound down because of a crit? The other Khawarij actually pulled a lot of weight during the active turn.

    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    TUAREG Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3 [​IMG]1
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    HAKIM Submachine Gun, Chain-colt + 1 Nasmat A2 / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] NASMAT A2 Electric Pulse. (0 | 4)
    NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    Played this list v Caledonia in Quad Control. The Muhktar pulled a huge amount of weight, hunting down Mcmorrough, a bunch of SAS, and a Cataran. They also felt a lot stronger in reactive, especially in tighter terrain. The extra wound over the Khawarij and being able to drop a ton of nanopulsars can deter a lot of aggression. Although they still die to bullets. They spent most of the game hanging out behind a wall in the middle of the board, poking out during active to discover camo and shoot things, then ducking back with the ML and Shihab to cover them. The Monstrucker is decent for being such a cheap Engineer.


    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    TUAREG Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 33)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 17)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    NAHAB (Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    Played this v TAK in supplies. He went first and used smoke and a bunch of bikes to grab the boxes and take them to his deployment zone. This game was mostly about the Mukhtar slowly pushing up through tons of camo and a linked frontovik sniper. The red fury went down to a shotgun on reactive but the doc and viral rifle still managed to clear the way. His last turn Pavel used camo to get into CC with the mukhtar and demolish them, then do the same to the Tuareg who had grabbed the last box. MVP for this game was the Nahab who stayed off the table til the last turn, used the depleted board to walk into the DZ, and shotgun both of his supply box carriers. Having the Rafiq in group two helping with discovering camo was also very useful, the Mukhtar probably couldn't have done it all by themselves.

    I think Ramah is decently strong in general. The link teams are incredibly flexible and your active turn can be brutal. I think the key to doing really well with them is to spend time setting up for reasonably safe reactive turns. The slow pushes with the Mukhtar, keeping them generally safe from retaliation, made them a lot more effective than spending a ton of orders to get as many kills as possible. Or even spending those orders to go for one more kill but leaving them exposed after. Saving 2 or 3 orders to pull back whatever your aggressive pieces are into the overwatch from defensive pieces will go a long way.


    Ramah Taskforce
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    TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant L2 Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (1.5 | 59)
    KHAWARIJ (Fireteam: Haris, NCO) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 30)
    KHAWARIJ Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 30)
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L1, Multispectral Visor L2) Mk12 / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    KHAWARIJ Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 28)
    NAMURR (Fireteam: Duo) Rifle + Light Shotgun, E/Marat, D-Charges / Heavy Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 38)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    NAHAB (Specialist Operative) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    There's probably a better way to do this, but I think this list shows just how flexible the Ramah fireteams can be. Either team can be your defense or offense, both teams have NCO, each team can be tailored to be good against whatever kind of target you need to shoot at.

    That's my take on Ramah right now.
     
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  11. ambisinister

    ambisinister Broken Zoetrope

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    @Masebs thanks for all the info!
     
  12. Ariwch

    Ariwch Tournament benthotic lurker

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    Viral rifles: I wouldn't call two profiles of a single unit a tool of the trade. Bananopulsers are fine, but definitely not a main weapon, as well as viral pistols. :)

    From my point of view, RTF's feature is the freaking mobility on non-hackable pseudo-HI
     
  13. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    I am also thinking that RTF may struggle reactively without disposable order soaks to jam up the enemy. To this end, I'm thinking about the following list;

    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    TUAREG Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
    KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    The core team is basically a Missile Castle, those linked MLs draw and absorb enemy fire with really scary AROs, locking down firelanes. The mid-range ARO duty is on an overclocked Rafiq and the two Fanous; they give me the B2 Flash Pulse/Red Fury that I need to really slow up lighter troops. Close range ARO duty is on the Mukhtar team, whose B2 in ARO with Mimetism, NWI, templates etc can protect me from a bumrush assault. The infiltrated Nahab can also block a chokepoint pretty effectively.

    Active turn, the order sinks are the Mukhtar team, Tuareg and Nahab, and the Rafiq if necessary. They're all fast and/or start up the board so they can move quickly onto objectives and grab them, or claim zones, and they have some effective gunfighting and killing power (Mukhtar Haris especially, but also the TO Camo from the Tuareg, or the Rafiq with MML2 from the EVO). If I face heavy camo, then the sniffers can move up and the Rafiq can easily reveal them all.

    I'm going to give this a few tries but I think it'll be pretty solid. It is, however, definitely more appropriate for scenarios like Supplies where you can send objective guys forward and defend a position, rather than something like Supremacy or Frontline. In that situation I'll need a link that can move more aggressively, and thus...

    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37)
    MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31)
    MUKHTAR (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    KHAWARIJ (Fatality L1, Multispectral Visor L2) Mk12 / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 36)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
    HORTLAK Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    MONSTRUCKER Submachine Gun, Chain Rifle, Drop Bears / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    5 SWC | 298 Points

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    This is much less refined, but it essentially replaces the cheap ML team with a more aggressive team using the Mk12 Khawarij and the NCO Ghulam to drop smoke. Obviously that leaves a defensive hole which I'm currently looking at filling with the Shitab and the Hortlak, although I'm very open for alternatives there.
     
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  14. Skjarr

    Skjarr EI Mouthpiece

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    I'm going to take one of the new Maggy profiles for a spin in Acquisition tonight.
    Thinking of making it a Datatracker and using to control the Tech Coffin.
    It'll probably be a disaster but we'll see!
     
  15. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    Played in a small tourney over the weekend with Rama and loved it. Ill post the list for the 2nd and 3rd rounds. 1st round was a shitshow due to a combination of personal fatigue from the ride to the tourney and playing a completely new army into one of the top players in the US. All youneed to know from that round is speculo and sheskin.

    Now for rounds 2 and 3 i ran this

    Ramah Taskforce──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9 KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) MUKHTAR (Fireteam: Haris) Viral Rifle, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 31) MUKHTAR (Multispectral Visor L2) Red Fury, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 37) MUKHTAR Doctor Plus (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, 2 Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30) NAHAB Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Submachine Gun + E/Mitter, Nanopulser / Pistol, Viral CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 30)GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]6 NAMURR Spitfire, E/Marat, D-Charges / Heavy Pistol, E/M CC Weapon, Knife. (1 | 44) GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 16) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) 5.5 SWC | 298 PointsOpen in Infinity Army

    I ran this on The Armory and a custom mission called Hermetic Lab which is pretty much The Armory but with a xenotech who can lock the room down instead of placing a scanner.
    Armory was against corregidor and was a fairly brutal game in my favor with the namurr, missile ghulam, nahab, and lgl ghulam mincing his army.
    Hermetic lab i lost due to jammers, but i made sure to punish him by leaving almost no one alive except an interventor, specter, and heckler. The muktar and namurr did work on this one.
     
  16. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    Namurr feels like an awesome choice for The Armoury. I'm definitely considering running a duo just for that mission
     
  17. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    Yeah, she ate 2 crazy koalas, and a nanopulser by dodges alone. Also being able to say f**k it, emarat a linked brigada, and afford to take a wound anyways was worth it. Also the namurr can and did join thr ghulam link both games. Thr best thing about the new units is that 6 inch movement coupled with NWI is worth its weight in gold when it comes to being on the move gunfighters.
     
  18. Geodron

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    I made this goofy list and I am tempted to build it. The basic strategy would be to use the shihabs as T1 ARO, then move up with the Fanous in a coordinated order to deploy sniffers. I would then engage with either the Rafiqs or the Maggie. I would either duo the maggie and a rafiq or duo the two rafiqs. The Kameel EVOs would buff the Shihabs and Rafiqs as well as playing hacker defense.

    Visually I enjoy the mama spider and her babies scuttling around the table. I'm sure another faction could do the TAG + Remotes better however.


    Maggie and Babies
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    MAGHARIBA (Fireteam: Duo, 360º Visor) MULTI HMG, 2 Heavy Flamethrower, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] MAGHARIBA PILOT Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. ()
    KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]2
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  19. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I modified it a bit to have some hacking defense. :P

    Ramah Taskforce
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    MAGHARIBA (Fireteam: Duo, 360º Visor) MULTI HMG, 2 Heavy Flamethrower, Mine Dispenser / . (2 | 99)
    [​IMG] MAGHARIBA PILOT Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. ()
    RAFIQ REMOTE FTO (Fireteam: Duo) Red Fury, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 22)
    RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]3
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
    KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    5 SWC | 299 Points
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  20. Solar

    Solar Well-Known Member

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    This is what I'm thinking. The second scenario is The Armoury and the third is Looting and Sabotage and I feel like Namurrs would be awesome for both tbh. Nahabs too.
     
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