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Spiral Corps Convo

Discussion in 'General' started by DustGod, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    In N2 it was "light a Tohaa on fire and they die, regardless of wounds." The shock from the Symbiont burning took the wearing Tohaa out, too.


    Hallelujah! That change was long overdue. I might even consider playing them now...
     
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  2. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    Ouch Its it gonna be unmodified 9/9? Can it be held back until most needed? like I take combi shot on my ARM but if a Missile comes in I use my Symbiomate?

    Stratuscloud: This piece of Equipment generates a Circular Template of Low Visibility Zone and SaturationZone centered on its owner

    This is Sweet so its like moving darkness this will be great for fire fights

    Dazer: This Deployable Weapon creates Very Difficult Terrain and a Saturation Zone in its Zone of Control.

    Another Terrain Effect Weapon Could really help with slowing down CC monsters or make Flanking harder.. But is it worth trading for the Minelayer skill


    Phero-Booster: A BS Weapon that shoots Pheromonic Special Ammunition.

    This is so cool I get to Hurt you and Target Mark you! Kriigel agents are pretty freakin cool! Now if the Long Arms are sweet or even just the Chaksa Smart Heavy Rocket...
    Kriigel agents have some hard choice loadouts like wow!


    I'm lookin at Kiiutan... SMG+E/mitter and E/Mauler if you know your fighting HI/TAGs or just for the Ability to Knock Fireteams out or Make that Rambo a 1 shot wonder...

    Sprial Corps seems to be the Anti-FIreteam/Rambo force. so many choices that can all put people in Isolated state...

    I'm getting a Guerrilla force type of feeling...
    all the Stratuscloud/Dazer/Mirrorball/Eraser
    Mixed with Hyper Dynamics/MultiTerrain/Stealth/6-2 MOV Really is giving me this "left behind enemy lines" feeling.. is this a coincidence? Im pretty excited the 27th can't come fast enough
     
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  3. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Yeah, before it was a frigging horrible big weakness. Nowadays it's a "just don't take HI/Gorgos and ignore this rule"... thus me feeling it's not a great rule as things go, since 90% of the army ignores the weakness.

    Making all Symbiont-toting units go into IMM1 or Dazed once they loss a wound from fire (plus Fire roll untill you pass or die) would be good.

    Problem is when a Yuan Yuan gets in (or even a Hakim...) and you suffer a single hit and loses the frog against nothing.

    Also, there might be a rework of ammo types, with the rework of total inmunnity.
     
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  4. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    Is this what happened before N3... ?
    Added
    If you're hit with Pheromonic ammo... and you go down... does that mean that you can still be targeted by speculative fire shots?

    If so that's kinda fun little perk when killing line troops. Dropping a bomb on em if any else gets close
     
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  5. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    It was "suffer 1 fire wound, the Tohaa dies directly because of the shock of the Symbiont"

    As long as the model is on the table, it can be fired upon. If you are asking "Marked" state remains onto Unconscious troopers, then yes, the only way to loose the Marked state is for the current turn to end.
     
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  6. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    As to the Fire I was commenting more on the changes between N2&N3. I'm thinking CB making these changes is in preparation to for N4 more than any particular rule itself. I wonder how far off N4 is?

    As for Pheromonic ammo. I don't know why but I think it's so cool...
     
  7. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    I hope a really long time, because N2->N3 delayed new books 6 freaking years! (Paradiso came out in 2012, we finally got post-Paradiso material in 2018.)
     
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  8. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    Looking at Army omfg
    Spiral Corps is my next thing Holy-ish!
    Idk what monstruckers are but what a loadout!
    Longarms portable Autocannon
    Sold! Sold!Sold!
    My Woman is gonna be pissed when finds out... :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
    That's over 200 in less than a month... I'm in trouble :scream:
     
  9. Verso

    Verso Active Member

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    So far it's been very awkward to build Spiral Corps lists, they're very SWC hungry. Certainly something to be mined there, being able to have, effectively, two Fireteam Cores is very strong. A lot of their compositions are awkward though, particularly finding a model to put your shots downfield. That 40pt Draal might actually see play.....
     
  10. Knauf

    Knauf Transhumanist

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    Taagma Viral Sniper + 2 Chaksa Auxiliars looks great to me, points wise. Those two sensor + heavy flamer Chaksas will be a nice deterrent to protect the Taagma.
     
  11. Verso

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    Yes that's the most obvious one. For a Tri-Core I haven't been able to find an amazing gunner though, Neema seems best but damn the 2 SWC is crippling. You're probably using 1.5 on Helots and the Big Boy can't join up so it's either buff a Reex to a normal trooper or use the expensive Draal? You could use another Taagma but then you can't complete the Brawler Fireteam, although it remains to be seen how useful that is to Spiral Corps.
     
  12. spears

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    Other than the fact they come in a nice box I'm pretty down on Spiral corps as a faction and the ones that made it into Tohaa.
    As a faction it seems like they have some okay individual pieces but nothing that comprises a decent core.
    The Brawler Schemer core is an okay defensive piece but those brawlers aren't cheap and is massively outclassed by similar setups in almost any other faction with mixed links.

    The Triads have a similar issue, in that you dont have Kamael or Makaul to fill them out.

    Even items such as the Greif operator just don't look like modern profiles, compared to a Zulu Cobra both with marksman rifles its just pants.

    They have shoddy active turn shooting, limited smoke and dubious cc capabilities.
    Its a big hodgepodge of potentially cool profiles but without a solid foundation to prop it up with.
     
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  13. Verso

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    @spears I find myself agreeing, there's just too many sharp edges on these guys. Nothing fits naturally except the one Taagma Triad. Why can't a Kiel go into a Tri-Core? Why aren't there more Triad fillers?

    I think their Smoke game is fine with the Kriigel, although he is expensive, and they take advantage of Smoke much better than Tohaa. The Brawlers are too expensive which is what I feared, they're stuck between a good, offensive, Core and a cheap, ARO Core.
     
  14. El tito Zylito

    El tito Zylito Active Member

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    guys im new with tohaa and triad mechanics, and probably there is something im not being able to see but..

    why reex escorts have special fireteam: triad with kriigel agent??
    both units have fireteam triad, so they can make a normal triad, there is no need for that special fireteam no?

    probably im committing a terrible mistake with triad rules or something i dont know xD
     
  15. spears

    spears Well-Known Member

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    In the pdf they don't have normal triad, presumably its a bug.
     
  16. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    Does 2019 really feel like the Year of Tohaa? Or even the year of Spiral Corps? More like the year of Shasvastii. :P
     
  17. Verso

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    Yes the other NA-2 Factions, the Haqq Sectorial, and the Shas remake are all better and more exciting to me than Tohaa or Spiral. Very disappointing day.
     
  18. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    @Verso
    Why'd you take down that video I didn't even get a chance to watch it man what happened?

    It's actually your videos they got me interested in Tohaa... Then I seen the Spiral models I was definitely interested.

    I'm going to look really close I don't have time today to dig through it the way I want... but tonight I'll be able to get into it.

    there's got to be something dope there...
    Look forward to next uploads.
    I do like the new format better than the old one...
    Good lookin out
     
  19. DustGod

    DustGod Well-Known Member

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    Question: Dazer & Stratuscloud
    Do they Stack? Will shooting at a Draal Saboteur through a Dazer w/ Active Stratuscloud State cause -2 burst (to a min 1 I know)
    So does this stack?
     
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