Maybe Lt Aquila will get FTO? It would be kinda cool. I'm so hyped. Bolts are one of my favourite minis and I will finally be able to put them on table <3
Given that he can wildcard around, I can see an argument that he punts some unlucky bolt out of a link briefly to steal the bonuses and mow someone down. As much as I would literally never consider that profile before, I may do so now.
Wonder if the Aquila gains anything else, like a HMG Lt Profile Don't think you quite got how dangerous a BS18 B4 MSV3 Multirifle is when you get Drop Bears for 7 points cheaper to access and E/Maulers to scare the heck out of more expensive stuff close up. Not to mention the MSV1 MSR is a significant upgrade. Unhackable Veterans with Bioimmunity pair rather well with the Aquila and we might finally have found a use for Bipandra. A Haris of Spitfire Bolt+Haris Dropbear Bolt+KHD E/Mauler Bolt clocks in at 63 points. which is more than reasonable. (and like 15 points cheaper than the old theoretical Version of HD+CombiLSG Drop Bear and Spitfire)
We can now live the noncompetitive list dream of having a Bolt core and a Bolt haris at the same time (with some wildcards). Praise be. Love everything about the bolt changes. Slightly sad that the multirifle and not the HMG aquila has the wildcard but better than nothing. Much more likely to have the MSV3 on the field now. And we can finally say that defaulting to the Swiss in 90% of situations won't happen. There's at least going to be a pause and a debate XD CSU wildcard as a fusilier is crazy. I've never imagined fusiliers being in such an aggressive fireteam. It's like getting a new Sectorial. Seriously, crazy changes. Really gonna shake up the playstyle IMO edit: Fixed CSU, thank you @colbrook
MR seems a little short ranged for a footslogging troop from DZ. Especially when paired with Bolts. I think I'd rather pair him with Fusilliers + Bipandra. It's awesome on Joan rolling with a paint train, but on Aquila it may turn out to be a bit lackluster. A lot more cheaper though. I could see it ran like this Neoterran Capitaline Army ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 5 BIPANDRA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) FUSILIER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 18) FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18) FUSILIER Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 14) AQUILA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 58) 2.5 SWC | 131 Points Open in Infinity Army Bolt Haris is a godsend for them, as are cheaper drop bears. So, uh, how about that basic BSG model now, CB? Not sure how popular the sniper will be even with MSV1, I think this part is still done better by either Hexa or Black Friar.
This won't be very exciting as long as NCOs use Lt. orders better than Lts. themselves. How comes they still cannot activate their links with their Lt. orders while NCOs can do so relatively safely (granted, only where they are available)?
For anyone who missed it - the MR Aquila in a Core Link hits stuff on 21s in 16", that's free FAT2 against Warbands and things out of cover. That's an astonishing increase in damage output. Now throw a Drop Bear or E/Mauler on the ground and roll those 4 dice on 21s against something. You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like. Ofc you have a point and the Fusilier+CSU Link just might be better suited for it.
I don't care about Lt order. I just want to have aggressive Lt in a link to use with new shiny CoC Bolt. If NCA will get NCO then it would be perfect :)
Heck yeah, Doc and Engineer in the same Link as murder Aquila. Almost sure you can take 2 Aquilas and make that work. They're 0 SWC after all. BTW even in -3 Rangebands the Aquila handily beats TO Snipers with 4 dice on 12s, which is better than a Core Linked Fusilier HMG in +3.
Emphasis mine. He only gets that huge BS21 against things without cover. I guess if you want to dedicate a link to clearing Infiltrators? Though I thought that was already Bolts' job, what with Drop Bears and Bioimmunity on BTS6, or alternatively a more disposable solo Black Friar. MRs seem to work mostly on units that bring something else to the table and the weapon is a bonus. Joan brings her Leadership. Swiss has TO and AHD. Crusader is a Drop Troop with a Light Flamer underneath his MR. Black Friar has all the tools from the toolbox and then MR. MSV3 alone is not enough, since that works directly with the weapon, while the above examples would still be nice even if the troop had a Combi instead of MR. Are you playing MR ORC in a Core in Varuna? I'd much rather have an HMG and BSG in that Fusi link. And that's BS 20 in 16". (though if you do play it, nice)
Literally posted all the requirements. in 16" and against Warbands/stuff out of Cover. No idea why you're repeating that. It's when you want to dedicate your Link to fight at close range, but don't even have to. The Aquila shoots pretty much everything in 32" with 4 dice on 12s (Base of 18 -3 for Cover -3 for Range). That's reasonable long range punch. But you're PanO and NCA - you did bring a HMG, yes? I'll probably still be looking at a Swiss in next to every list. The long range TO dude and she "short range" MSV3 just compliment each other so well. You already had the Fusiliers and CSUs for the Link, now you just need to fit in the 58 point Aquila. PanOceania ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 AQUILA MULTI Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 58) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) CSU (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) FUSILIER Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 18) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) FUSILIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) GROUP 2 5 1 SWISS GUARD HMG / Pistol, AP CCW. (2 | 68) DEVA (Assault Hacking Device UPGRADE: Lightning) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Looks promising to run. Not sure I'll run the new Aquila every game, Squalo Lt + CoC or just a Bolts Core to get some variation into NCA lists looks interesting. NCA remains a DZ locked Sectorial and a 6-4 Multi HMG backed by an unhackable Haris with a Machinist seems like a good way to cross the gap. I'm a little cross they apparently haven't touched the Locust or Uhlan but oh well, take what you can get.
Meh, even with cost reduction and msv1 I see no point in taking bolts over fusis. CoC otherwise is excellent addition, which make veteran much less needed. CSU in fusiliers? I guess one with shotgun is ok. Aquila wildcard - no this is awesome. Aquila + Engineer + Haris, guess it will be my new go to list.
Hey are nice changes. I find that it's the dearth of anti material ccw and infiltrating specialists that hold nca back rather the their gunfighting though.
Yeah, and most Warbands will not let you approach them from further than their DTWs in your Active. The Aquila will survive that, but his buddies are screwed. Unless you're talking about shooting one in ARO, then why is your Aquila out for AROs? He's begging to get blasted by an ML or a sniper. Also congrats on using your 60pts big guy to clear out 5-10pts chaff. Yeah, that BS21 sounds strong but also limited in use. I'll give you that his high BS counters range penalties though. Also I somehow missed CSU as Fusis, which is interesting (yay, a Shotgun in Fusi link again!), but I would really like that CSU Duo too. Also feels a bit wrong to get Mercs into a basic line troop link. Especially as Fusiliers would probably be a bit dismissive of CSU in fluff. Funny how I feel like we should be having this argument in reverse :P
@SmaggTheSmug CSUs might be former military so they are linking with their old buddies ;) I'm more thrilled for Nanopulsers in link than I'm for shotguns.
The HMG Aquila was never going to get more than a Haris option, the Hsien showed that already. Lets do some soft and hard target comparison to see what was CB going for here, always in shooting over 16" of course. Aquila Guard - HMG vs. Lasiqs - Viral Sniper Rifle Active Player 71.25% Aquila Guard inflicts 1 or more wounds on Lasiqs (Unconscious) 35.78% Aquila Guard inflicts 2 or more wounds on Lasiqs (Dead) Failures 21.84% Neither player succeeds Reactive Player 6.91% Lasiqs inflicts 1 or more wounds on Aquila Guard (1 W) 1.72% Lasiqs inflicts 2 or more wounds on Aquila Guard (Unconscious) Aquila Guard - MULTI Rifle vs. Lasiqs - Viral Sniper Rifle Active Player 57.03% Aquila Guard inflicts 1 or more wounds on Lasiqs (Unconscious) 21.42% Aquila Guard inflicts 2 or more wounds on Lasiqs (Dead) Failures 32.09% Neither player succeeds Reactive Player 10.89% Lasiqs inflicts 1 or more wounds on Aquila Guard (1 W) 2.42% Lasiqs inflicts 2 or more wounds on Aquila Guard (Unconscious) Aquila Guard - HMG vs. Al Fasid - HMG Active Player 58.51% Aquila Guard inflicts 1 or more wounds on Al Fasid (1 W) 21.54% Aquila Guard inflicts 2 or more wounds on Al Fasid (Unconscious) 4.38% Aquila Guard inflicts 3 or more wounds on Al Fasid (Dead) Failures 34.37% Neither player succeeds Reactive Player 7.12% Al Fasid inflicts 1 or more wounds on Aquila Guard (1 W) Aquila Guard - MULTI Rifle vs. Al Fasid - HMG Active Player 48.21% Aquila Guard inflicts 1 or more wounds on Al Fasid (1 W) 14.46% Aquila Guard inflicts 2 or more wounds on Al Fasid (Unconscious) 2.37% Aquila Guard inflicts 3 or more wounds on Al Fasid (Dead) Failures 40.74% Neither player succeeds Reactive Player 11.05% Al Fasid inflicts 1 or more wounds on Aquila Guard (1 W) soooooo...... yea, the Aquila will only be an assault mini and will need support if you have to shoot stuff outside 16", to the point that a linked fusiler does it better Fusiliers - HMG vs. Lasiqs - Viral Sniper Rifle Active Player 66.43% Fusiliers inflicts 1 or more wounds on Lasiqs (Unconscious) 33.33% Fusiliers inflicts 2 or more wounds on Lasiqs (Dead) Failures 21.00% Neither player succeeds Reactive Player 12.57% 12.57% Lasiqs inflicts 2 or more wounds on Fusiliers (Dead)
