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Achilles and Patroclus

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by yoink101, Mar 18, 2019.

  1. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    Why can sheskiin be in a core team but Achilles and Patroclus can’t lead an Enomotarchos?
     
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  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Because they only have eyes for each other!
     
  3. Philamilapeed

    Philamilapeed Totally not a Speculo

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    Because Sheskiin doesn't have access to smoke, she's only 1W + NWI with no form if Shock/Viral immunity, she doesn't have ODD or Mimetism, and the troops she can link with don't have ODD and a pile of powerful mid-field guns or CC ability.


    Also, I hear Achilles is a pit of a prick and the Myrmidons just don't like hanging out with him. He doesn't even get invited to barbeques.
     
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  4. Wolf

    Wolf https://youtube.com/@StudioWatchwolf

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    Yes, there's a notable dearth in the background detail of the Greek heroes as to whether, when ALEPH recreated them, it also recreated their erm ... 'well established culture of man-love' too. :grin: Probably just as well, really.
     
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  5. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    A year ago, I’d agree with everything there. With the amount of e/m, viral, jammers, linked msv2 snipers, and crazemazing hackers that are out, I don’t anymore. As more sectorials get more and more tools to deal with big threats like Achilles, I don’t see why he or Pat shouldn’t be in an Enomotarchos.

    Steel phalanx used to be the big dick in the room. They aren’t anymore. An army with zero deployable weapons or camo tokens.

    Also, sheskiin can indeed get multiple wounds. She doesn’t start with it, but she does start with fodder to throw at any shock/viral weapons that might come up.
     
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  6. Wolf

    Wolf https://youtube.com/@StudioWatchwolf

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    Well, they did make the sculpture with reference to the Brad Pitt movie, and I always think those opening scenes where, because he's in a different league to other warriors, he can't even be bothered to show up for his duel with the enemy's champion. The overhead barrel-roll and heart-stab combo in those scenes also always worth a re-watch, too. :smile:
     
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  7. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    They called it the Steel Phallus for a reason!

    OK, I call it that, but I'm sure they knew!

    Plus the most common abbreviation used for them is ASS!
     
  8. Wolf

    Wolf https://youtube.com/@StudioWatchwolf

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    One of the things that I really liked about the company is that this stuff is going on at every level. Although Corvus Belli is an internationally successful company, they're very far from having any sort of corporate sensibilities; they're still a bunch of friends having fun with their hobby.
     
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  9. Tourniquet

    Tourniquet TJC Tech Support

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    A better comparison would be Why can Joan be in a fireteam and Achilles not an Enomotarchos? At least the hoplite, version ODD may bring some balance concerns.
     
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  10. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    In either case, Achilles costs 70+ points. With all of the fireteam options that have been added recently, there isn't a reason to keep good models out.
     
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  11. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    Plus, Illiad's myrmidons were supposed to be led in combat by Achilles to begin with :p

    Well, i dont think hoplite's version of Achilles would be that a game breaker in a 4-men fireteam, especially since said fireteam can bring a doctor (and doctor as one of the best doctor of the whole galaxy), but no engineer nor real hacking defense to counter the 2 main ways of stopping Achilles in his rampage.
    That would still be a problem for Hector, whose only selling point versus Achilles is that he can link. Hector would definitely need some kind of buff (and i'm totally for a mixed enomotarkos team for him)
     
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  12. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Hector AND achilles in the same list is a meh... not enough points.
    Make it a 400pts list... and you can make an Achilles + Patroclus + Hector + Ajax Enomotarchos!!!! 6 linked people XD

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    HECTOR Lieutenant Plasma Rifle, Nanopulser, Stun Grenades + 1 TinBot A / Heavy Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (0 | 71)
    ACHILLES Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (2.5 | 75)
    PATROCLUS (CH: Mimetism) Fireteam: Duo (Achilles v2)) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 51)
    AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / AP Heavy Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 39)
    PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Heavy Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 40)
    MACHAON Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 38)
    EUDOROS Mk12, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 40)
    MYRMIDON OFFICER (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 35)
    NETROD Electric Pulse. (0 | 4)
    NETROD Electric Pulse. (0 | 4)

    6 SWC | 397 Points

    Open in Infinity Army

    mwahahahahaha XD
     
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  13. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    So much manliness in such a short list
     
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  14. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    My Myrmidon Officer is called Helen :p
     
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  15. Golem2God

    Golem2God Just a Kooky Kumotail serving others.

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    @xagroth Now that is a list full of character. Literally.
    I'd even give it a shot myself in a match.
     
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