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What would you like to seee in the shasvasti rework?

Discussion in 'Combined Army' started by tokumei, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. Razi

    Razi Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree. It's not that the design looks bad. I think they look awesome and those NOX soldiers are my favorite. But the Shas look too similar to Onyx. The Nexus and Unidrons are different sure, but they're not that different. I would've been happier with something a little more unique. I can't believe I'm thinking... i wanted something more alien.

    Based on the Sphinx's new look, i have to imagine we're getting a new mini. Would that mean we may get a new Noctifer as well?
     
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  2. Death

    Death Well-Known Member

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    I feel the opposite way. I'm happy the new Shas units will mesh well with Onyx units so the whole force has a more unified look.
     
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  3. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    You can buy the new one and use the old one too, they increased to AVA 2.
    (just kidding, no one field 2 TAG in a list)
     
  4. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    I did! And it worked!

    I do think dual sphinx lists will be more prohibitive because Sphinxes cost a lot. But it's doable.
     
  5. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    A Gwailos wildcard would definitely make me more excited about the Nox. Even if they didn’t change the profile at all, I’d be fine with it. I’m really wondering what the Taigha will do to distinguish themselves from Hungries. Maybe hyper dynamics or something so we don’t get access to smoke but have decently survivable warband?
     
  6. DaRedOne

    DaRedOne Morat Warrior Philosopher
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    Taighas could be S4, have DTWs and some CC ability, and have camo. I want everything in this sectorial to have camo.
     
  7. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    But yeah, I don't expect making many double-TAG lists in SEF :P
     
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  8. Philamilapeed

    Philamilapeed Totally not a Speculo

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    As of now with what we know, it's not even possible to get 10 regular orders in such a list even if you spam basic Nox, Ikadrons, and R-Drones. But that depends on the Taigha, as it's unlikely anything else in the army will be below 14 points.
     
  9. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    As long as they get all of that for 7-12 points Lol
     
  10. Wyrmnax

    Wyrmnax Well-Known Member

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    Camo would be prohibitive, but pretty much everything else falls under 7 points.
     
  11. Bort

    Bort Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Wanna Get Off!

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    My brain read “some cc ability” as “actually useful in close combat”. Like a Daturazi upgraded to Camo. Although I guess losing grenades and smoke grenades would still put them in that range
     
  12. Wyrmnax

    Wyrmnax Well-Known Member

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    MA1 and CC21 are actually not expensive by themselves. Look at Morlocks.

    At that point you are trading smoke for the extremely impetuous. If you want to keep them regular and non-impetuous then yes, price will shoot up, but then again I'd think to around 10 pts.
     
  13. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Color swap helps, actually:

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  14. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    Is it just me, or is the design kinda lazy? It struck me when I saw the new Nox and Seed-Soldier concept art. I pasted them onto each other in photoshop to confirm that it's not just me and the only differences are:
    - Nox: backpack with antennas, shoulder pads
    - Seed-Soldiers: incubator tubes, extra sockets in armor
    That's it. Apart from the above differences, the designs are 100% identical, all the other differences are freehand on armor. And this is for two cheap units with large AVA that will probably appear on the table at the same time.
     
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  15. Aspect Graviton

    Aspect Graviton Friendly Alien Overlord
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    Ava 1 gwailo and the lack of aswangs are currently my questions

    But the nox, the mentor and Victor white noise Messer all sing to me.
     
  16. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Two LI, presumably with pretty similar stats look similar? Isn't that what we should expect?

    I mean, a Nisse is just a Bagh Mari in a coat, and the Akal is a Bagh Mari with wings, but these flourishes make it clear they're different units with similar statlines, if it ends up that Seed Soldiers are Nox with a fancy rule, then the funky hairdo will hopefully separate them on the battlefield.
     
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  17. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    The dossiers are always very similar; they have basic forms they draw the unique faction details onto. A lot of the actual character comes from the sculptors. I’m betting Nox and Seeds will have very different posing.

    On the existing Shasvastii line you already have a lot of very similar units. Malignos and Shrouded differ only by suit texture, and other armies also have lots of models where a few carefully placed armor plates or unique details suffice to distinguish troops with otherwise very similar outfits.
     
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  18. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Regardless, Shas with White Noise is gonna be dumb...
     
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  19. ThananRollice

    ThananRollice Your Friendly Neighborhood Locust
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    Popped over here from the Daedalus thread to ask you CA folks a question. Do you think that Bit is secretly a Speculo? She has the same face line as the Victor and Speculo Dossier where their predator mouth would open up.
     

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  20. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    She doesn't have the vertical line from nose to chin.
     
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