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Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Saxcloud, Mar 10, 2019.

  1. Saxcloud

    Saxcloud New Member

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    Based on your advice, i came up with the following list:

    [​IMG] Specialist aleph
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] AGÊMA Marksman MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 30)

    3.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    [​IMG] Achille spearhead
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    [​IMG]10 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] ACHILLES Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CC Weapon. (2.5 | 75)
    [​IMG] DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / AP Heavy Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] SHUKRA (Chain of Command) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.3 Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 21)
    [​IMG] ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    The First list Is for engineering deck and acquisition, while the second Is for supremacy. The First have 15 order with a second group of 2 netrod, the Total reaction and a chain myrm to support an agema marksmen. The First group Is filled of Specialist to do the Mission objective. The second list, instead Is a kill list , as if i kill efficently i can control more easily the board for the Mission .

    What do you think?
     
  2. Diphoration

    Diphoration Well-Known Member
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    You should always max out on your Netrods availability, orders are the most important ressources in infinity and we're lucky enough to have 4 points orders.

    You don't need that many specialists. Between 3 post-human proxy, and a Shukra CoC, you should be good to go. I personally like have another mid-field camo one such as the Naga KHD or Dasyu FO.

    That being said, you have a lot of wasted point on medkit Dakinis, while it does make them specialist, medkits are pretty useless as the only target you'd consider using it on is the Shukra.

    As cheerleader goes, I prefer the Thorakitai over the Dakinis, the 360 visor one is very cheap are works really well in protecting your DZ from AD troops. That's not to say Dakinis are bad. But I prefer using then as attack pieces with HMG or in the OSS link. (There is some merit to coordinating 4 Dakinis in suppressive midfield though, scary!)

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    For the second list, I think a Mk5 would be better than a Mk3, you already have Achille, Dart and Ajax as attack pieces, I don't think that Mk3 will receive many orders and the Mk5 has the advantage of being a solid ARO piece, midfield template, specialist and E/M grenades.

    I also think that list could try to spread into 13-14 orders and be a lot more efficient, putting Dart and Achille in 2 different groups to maximize your order efficiency. I'd personally cut Ajax and switch mk3 to mk5. You would then be able to fit 2 Lamedh, 2 Netrod, 1 Daleth, 1 Warcor and still have 6 points to spend. Netting you 2 specialists and 4.5 more orders.
     
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  3. Saxcloud

    Saxcloud New Member

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    Well, so i'll try to cut dakini to add a third netrod and a better model ( myrmidon or naga or another deva )

    For the second list, i'll try cut mk3 for mk5 pulling dart in a second group with zayn and few netrod order.
    May be that a 9 order list with Achille enough or should i try to cap AT 10 ? How many orders for dart may be sufficient? 4 or 5 is the best i can get to gather for her in a second group in the achille list....
     
  4. Saxcloud

    Saxcloud New Member

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    The First One can be Better Like this?

    [​IMG] Specialist aleph
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] DEVA Lieutenant (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] DEVA (Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] DASYU Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
    [​IMG] ZAYIN Rebot HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] LAMEDH Rebot Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.2 Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] DART Submachine Gun, Viral Tactical Bow, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon, Knife. (0 | 34)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] MYRMIDON Chain Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] NETROD . (0 | 4)
    [​IMG] AGÊMA Marksman MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 30)

    3.5 SWC | 300 Points

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  5. Káosz Brigodéros

    Káosz Brigodéros Vanguard, Inc.

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    I think in all three missions much more emphasis should be put on raw killing power.
    I would try something like this:

    Vanilla
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    [​IMG]10
    ACHILLES Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (2.5 | 75)
    PATROCLUS (ODD: Optical Disruptor) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0 | 55)
    DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    NAGA (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
    ATALANTA MULTI Sniper Rifle + TinBot E (Spotter) / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 39)
    PROXY Mk.1 Engineer Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    PROXY Mk.5 (Forward Observer) 2 Submachine Guns, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
    NETROD . (0 | 4)
    THORAKITES Paramedic (Medikit, 360º Visor) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)
    THORAKITES Paramedic (Medikit, 360º Visor) Submachine gun, Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

    5.5 SWC | 300 Points

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    I would run a similar list for all three missions.
    The list above has an ample amount of specialists (5), so pushing buttons and doing classifieds will be no problem.
    In all three missions you will face an opponent rushing agressively towards you, that means you can expect close-range firefight a-plenty. (You and your opponent will rush for the consoles, the quadrants, the objective room, the antennas and the tech-coffin to control and/or hack or to prevent hacking.) I believe, hitting hard (and preferably first) is more important, than having more specialists.
    Achilles and Patroclos is more or less self-explanatory. Two things to add: Patty is awesome at clearing minifields (that is a problem for low-oredercount armies). If you field 4 Achilles in ZoC to one each other, the left-hand side Achilles and the right-hand side Achilles will be a whopping 24 inches apart, that is on the other side of the table. Now your opponent is free to bet which one is the real one (and concentrate his hacking resources there) - while the real Patty is immune to hacking...
    Danavas has access to a wide range of fantastic hacking programs including Cybermask.
    I doubled on Nagas because minelayer and BS are both awesome when it comes to area denial.
    Never leave home without Atalanta. I firmly believe if you have access to MSV2+, you should field one. (Ariadna players do not rejoyce...) Atalanta is best in this business.
    Posthumans to perform ARO duty with impunity: if they go down, you will not lose an order because you have a Netrod.
    Thorakitai: I am always torn if I should bring Thoras or Dakinis. (Paramedics, of course.) Dakinis are much more mobile and Mimetism is a great selling point making them better specilaists. Thoras rock 360 visor and SMG - they are the better gunfighters and make excellent DZ guardians.
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