Good idea, I've got two, spitfire and combi. Painted in the Teuton scheme nobody can really say boo about it.
This is a slight modification to a list that I have had success with. Test 1 (2 Group) ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 5 2 JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, DA CCW. (+1 | 50) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) BULLETEER Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 23) GROUP 2 7 BROTHER KONSTANTINOS Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Assault Pistol, CCW. (0 | 29) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) ORDER SERGEANT Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19) ORDER SERGEANT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) SPEC. SERGEANT (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 24) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) 5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
Some great suggestions here. I reckon I'm going to see if I can do a Steel Phalanx esque multiple fire team list mysekf. Just have to get my head around the new compositions.
Just had a game of TicTacToe against TAK. Went as expected Ive lost like 10-0. I will try to write the report soon :)
To be fair tic tac toe is a horrible mission that feels like it was made for tac, it completely favors multiple cheap forward specialists and lots of orders
Well actually with EVO short lists can somewhat manage, but I think OSS can pull off 15 orders with EVO afair. Oh and dices were quite decent, I had not failed any objective roll (EVO helped a ton) and ate no crits during my active. Also FK is hilariously bad (even FO LT) when compared to Santiago (Lt or not).
God it's difficult to write a good list for Highly Classified. That was the first time where I struggled due to the Lieutenant options. Problem was, I realistically felt I needed to include either a FK AHD or De Fersen (they cover 14 objectives alone if memory serves), and then a machinist and a doctor of some variety. You start to run out of points very quickly, and you just know De Fersen as Lieutenant is going to die a horrible, early death too, so felt obligated to put some CoC in there... Yeah, it was seriously difficult. Order heavy missions like aforementioned Tic Tac Toe, or when you would really, REALLY like some redundancy are going to be really hard.
I was thinking about trying this : Military Orders──────────────────────────────────────────────────8 2 1 PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) SERAPH HMG, 2 Nanopulsers / EXP CCW. (2 | 79) CRABBOT Flash Pulse / Knife. () MULEBOT Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) MACHINIST (Father-Engineer) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) TRAUMA-DOC (Father-Doctor) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) KNIGHT OF MONTESA Paramedic (MediKit) Boarding Shotgun, Chain-colt / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 39) JOAN OF ARC Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 51) KNIGHT OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE (Chain of Command) Breaker Combi Rifle / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 52) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) TECH-BEE (Remote Assistant Level 1, Specialist Operative) Flash Pulse / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) 3.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army Not a fan yet but could work. Oh, and for the French satellite, we have Unmasking and Deadly Dance. With all our different tables I have already presented... Maybe the FK FT is the solution.
Well, I'm planning to use this today on mi first time trying the new MO. It is for Power Pack against CA. Spoiler: Power Pack list Power Pack─────────10 KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Lieutenant (Specialist Operative) Spitfire, Nanopulser, E/M Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, DA CCW. (1 | 43) KNIGHT OF SANTIAGO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, D-Charges + 1 TinBot A (Deflector L1) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 38) ORDER SERGEANT Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) ORDER SERGEANT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) BLACK FRIAR (Albedo, Biometric Visor L1) MULTI Rifle, Nanopulser, Drop Bears / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 28) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 33) SPEC. SERGEANT (CH: TO Camouflage, Infiltration, Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) KNIGHT OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE (Chain of Command) Spitfire / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 56) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) 5.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army I hope I can get out of deployment given the weird deployment zones in this scenario, using either the spitfires (Sepulchre can use his holoecos for some try and shoot the right one or let me advance more too), or the TO OS sniper or combi. Aside from that the plan is to have an annoying ARO with the TO sniper, because he should be more difficult to kill with the saturation zone. Ideally he will be revealed after the enemy does some positioning to destroy the TR, and then he will have to face both. Sepulchre is there to be the protagonist. He has +3 and throws 2 dies getting objectives, so he is going forward shooting everything he can and using holos for surprise shot or blowing up mines. He should be protected by the OS FO and his mines. And of course there is a big Santiago link with OS and BF that should be able to advance to the middle of the table and do some damage, some drop best laying and some pushing buttons. Also, I really feel like changing the peacemaker for a machinist so the TR would be much more annoying, but I'm not so sure about it.
I've got Highly classified coming up pretty soon. I like that it's one of the few missions that seems truly difficult for a great number of factions. Although I'm not too familiar with the new ITS Objectives yet. It's been one of my favorites for a long time. The draw at the beginning can change a both player's plans a lot. Now... Decapitation and Hunting Party... THOSE are crappy missions.
Hunting party is like one of the missions MO has an actual edge at due to most knights getting either glue guns or stun pistols, now jsa on the other hand jsa thinks hunting party is suffering
It's not just the knights, Order Sgts qualify too. The only profiles who don't seem to qualify appear to be Joan and the REMs.
basically show cases that either BS or visual modifiers need to be re-costed. At the moment visual modifiers are costed as if msv2 is broadly abundant on cheap profiles. It is super odd that mimetism and camo are cheap answers to an expensive stat. Yet msv 2 is an expensive answer to a cheap skill.
I believe I've seen it stated somewhere that MSV is costed as it is in anticipation of Low, Poor and Zero Visibility Terrain. Make up a table with a few patches of screening greenery or smoke, and watch the value of things like Aquila Guards rise into the stratosphere as they can stack modifiers with table terrain, while Camo becomes markedly less ridiculous since it gets no extra benefit and actually has less solid Cover to hide in.
So it only stresses how good mimetism is as it is not conditional on table and fully stacks with visibility zones ^^
But visibility zones do stack with camo ? So if anything visibility zones are then extra rewarding to camo models since it further punishes standard models. While it just marginally offsets the expense of msv models
