Well apparently CB had not previously fully finalized sectorials. MO has a "problem" of new Magisters being painted in Hospitallers colors. Silly them they cannot link with Hospitallers anymore, and actually count as Teutons for fireteam purposes, making the old color scheme more game appropriate xD
The Tech-Bee complaint is ridiculous. The game is marked 18+. There's F-bombs in the introductory booklet for Icestorm. Pinups don't hurt anyone and that particular piece of art is old, it was in the first artbook. I agree that it looks silly when used for an actual unit (I had no problem with it when it was Bootleg exclusive), I ridiculed the unit myself with a comic, but don't tell me having actually attractive female minis isn't a hook for this game. My first model was the Daktari, hoping a resculpt keeps the cat ears. I couldn't disagree more about the colour schemes. It's extra bit of lore and inspiration for painters. I would love for CB to showcase those on actual models too. I am elated we finally got an orc-markings ORC in Varuna starter pics. Those one page comics are pretty meh and the Riveters make me cringe. But there's a ton of cringy lore in this game. Kerr-Nau and Blackjack are both so edgy I hurts. Uhahu's monologue sounds nothing like the girl we know from the comic. The maps aren't very good indeed.
I really kind of wish CB would include small hobby sections in the books ala old GW codex style. just maybe 3-4 pages of cool looking models, color schemes, how to achieve certain effects, basing, ect ect.
@Triumph About mixed signals: the art I posted is Gogo Marlene in Haqqislam for Maya show. Gogo is a celebrity that is fluffed as an entertainment and fluff icon. Her outfit is mirrored by mini and reminds me of the mixing of conventions of under overwear (:) i know)revealed and concealed and concealed like what Gautiere did for 5th element. (Where his futuristic take on fashion often included plastic and transparent elements that showed flesh nonetheless covered). Tldr: even though it is panchira, sexy and stylised it is well executed not in-your-face and it makes sense, cuz this is Gogo - the sexiest Maya host. I like this, I get this and it can be sexy and revealing without being low key and borderline vulgar. I think this is a litmus test: if you can proudly show the art to your female friend, it is cool, if you cringe it is not. And remember women are mostly cool with nude acts, artistic convention and photographs. But there is a difference between this and what I am trying to point to. Like Rise of Tomb Rider and old Tomb rider 3 @uniform fans: I do not object to that per se, just in that book. I get your dudes, I get immersion, but why so selective? CB? Why only IA, JSA, MO and Uhlans? Make a pdf or... as my mate said mini booklet and cover everyone... I just ask to drop in some fluff about formations... like jsa armour patterns in Uprising. That was ace... fleshing out what otherwise would be: zhanshi on sand, zhanshi in snow, suburbia zhanshi etc
I don't like the pinup because I feel like it's sexist and without artistic merit. Incidentally I dislike the mini as well. I feel like CB should be making more of the great art and minis they have for female characters and such in the game, and not more techbees. There's no need for it and it's embarrassing.
The thing I hate most about the Tech bee is that fugly crabbot she is lumped with. I like the Tech bee, but she does feel out of place in PanO, I feel she would fit more naturally in the Nomads. Maybe someone needs to paint her for a Varuna army. ( Water World, Bikini Uniform, it totally makes sense. /comic sans )
Techbees are shit and always will be until they get a non-shit sculpt. Also don't forget that someone at CB thought it was clever to refer to her as a "Coolie" to start with.
No sorry I don't accept that. "They're from Spain so such jokes are acceptable" is not remotely a legitimate argument, firstly because 1) sexism and sexist portrayals of women is not, to my knowledge, acceptable in Spain, 2) even if it was, that book is being sold here, where I am, and where I am it's not acceptable amongst decent company, and 3) however broadly acceptable it is in any area does not make it actually okay to do. CB did support women who work at their office during Spain's national women's strike. Clearly women's concerns are concerns they have supported. There are some excellent female character designs in their catalogue, and I think the only transgender wargame character I've even seen in all my years (that wasn't horribly offensive, anyway). But that's not a free pass for what they publish, and neither is "oh the culture is different."
There's literally one Tech-Bee among dozens of Carmens, Rosies, Lunahs, Valkyries, Ko Dalis, Patsies Garret, Shonas Carano, Emilies, Hexxers etc etc. Not to mention all the competent ladies in the fluff, like the presidents of USAriadna or Haqqislam Hachib. And the nameless female unit models, be it all female units like Reverend Moiras or just regular ones like Naffatun, Magister Knights or Alguaciles. If anything the pinup one stands out by its rarity. Aren't they allowed to cut lose from time to time and make a pinup mini? Were you protesting fat Yuan Yuan as well? Sexy is not the same as sexism. A pinup is not the same as condoning sexual harassment or objectifying people. It's just a drawing. Literally a non-problem. If a sexy drawing upsets you, clearly you don't know what actual sexism or oppression is.
You can set you watch by these tired old arguments, which are trotted out every single time. "Other ones aren't sexist!" "just because she's sexy doesn't mean it's sexist" "it's just a drawing" "you're oppressing their artistic desires" "You're the real sexist here, you don't appreciate real sexual oppression" etc etc etc. Other ones do not excuse this one. Yes but that does not mean this is therefore okay. If its just a drawing why are you so attached to defending it against my criticism. Actually I'm criticising their artistic choices, which one does as they see fit. No that's very stupid. Look I'm not saying it's an unforgivable crime, Lord knows if I didn't buy anything from companies that published sexist depictions of women I'd never buy anything, but I'm allowed to damn well say "that's sexist" when I see it. Like it's an embarrassment, really.
My two cents : + - I love the comic strips. I would love to see more. And I agree it would be better if they were telling a short story. - description of factions are nice. Spzcial mention to invincible Army and yujing society. Minus - - maps could be greatly improved. It looks like something made in haste with paint. - the narrative of the conflict did not entertain me much ... They could tell the same story but better writing. The dialogue and story about the monastery attack were nice. The evolution of the front from an unpersonal point of view not so much ... PS : I don't understand all the fuse about the tech bee. It was designed and intended as a pinup. You may dislike this because personnal taste, cultural biais, religious belief or whatever ... It is not forbidden to draw or sculpt almost naked women with big boobs in most democracies (can't think of a country that forbid it). Nor is it forbidden to draw or sculpt men with oversized muscle. I find both these sculpt to be attravtive and I like to paint and play them. Just the same way I like old Greek sculpt. I strongly support equality between gender. But I don't think this kind of art is an issue.
Which you proceed to ignore instead of addressing. I don't think anyone's seriously defending the Tech-Bee. I'm just pointing out how wrong you are by attacking one pinup among dozens of empowering female characters in the game and calling CB sexist over it. I have yet to see a shred of evidence that sexy pinups are somehow sexism, promote sexism or have any negative impact whatsoever. All the time it looks like "I don't like it, so no one else should be allowed to enjoyed it either" or as something that should be taken for granted, as if it was religious dogma. Also, as I mentioned, this game is 18+; adults usually can tell reality from fiction and right from wrong. Also as an artist that makes sexy art from time to time I feel insulted by implication that I am somehow a horrible person because I've drawn a titty. Where do you live that a picture of a girl in a bikini would be "unacceptable" in a book for adult nerds? Some Mormon commune? Saudi Arabia? A Christian monastery? I don't think you're sexist, I think you're a prude, not unlike the Bible-thumping ones in southern USA.
I actually addressed them all in that very post, briefly, as I have heard them all over and over previously. Look here comes some new ones, "it's not illegal" I know, nobody said it is or should be, "you're picking out the one bad example" yes, I'm criticising the bad art, and not criticising the art I like, that's how that works. "well I've not seen any evidence it's sexist" just because you've not seen the evidence, doesn't mean it can't be true "you're saying I'm a terrible person for drawing sexualised art" I've seen your art, it's soft porn (other than the comics, which are funny), I don't have any problem with porn and don't consider you a bad person for making it, but I also don't think it should be in wargaming books because there are people who want to play the game who don't want to see that, and that's fine. And also this is sexist in a way (some) porn is not. "you're just a prude!" no, I'm not, Lord knows how I'd convince you of that but then I am in a better position to know, after all, I've known me for 29 years and you, well, haven't. Again, I'm allowed to make my criticism. And hey if I'm the overly sensitive one, again, why does my criticism draw such ire?
But, are there campaign rules in third offensive? I did not understand if the Black Friday sale of paradiso as campaign prequel (if i did not Imagine things) Is linked to content in third offensive. And if there are such campaign rules in the book, how good are they??
