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Official ruling on Libertos SWC cost requested

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by meikyoushisui, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    It's showing 0SWC in Army.

    Can we please get a CB staff ruling on whether this is legal to play as 0SWC? It's kind of ridiculous to give every vanilla army 2 more camo markers for almost nothing
     
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  2. Phlyk

    Phlyk Well-Known Member

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    The Minelayer profile is meant to be 1swc. I would recommend enforcing that ruling until the correction has formally been made.
     
  3. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Why 1 SWC when every minelayer (with mine) profile in the came cost 0.5 ?
     
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  4. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    They aren't all 0.5SWC, look at the Strelok in generic Ariadna.

    The Libertos isn't, for roughly the same reason - it prevents the factions that can already spam Minelayers from spamming them even more with a cheaper profile, and for the factions that are designed to not have Minelayers it gives them the option but they have to sacrifice SWC for it.

    Note also that the preview of the Libertos unit entry showed it as 1SWC.
     
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  5. Wyrmnax

    Wyrmnax Well-Known Member

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    Probably because it is cheap as hell. SWC makes it a bit harder to become a auto-include.
     
  6. Mruczyslaw

    Mruczyslaw AROnaut

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    Thanks to 1 SWC it is actual choice between this profile and chealer SMG.
     
  7. Koni

    Koni BanHammer
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    Libertos minelayer should be 1 SWC. I'll tell the Army guys to fix it.

    Sorry for the inconveniences.
     
  8. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    You know what would prevent said faction from not spamming Minelayer even more ?

    Not giving them Libertos in first place!


    xD
     
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  9. BLOODGOD

    BLOODGOD Vampire Hunter

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    The Strelok minelayer is sadly not available in vanilla Ariadna. I would totally take one for 1 SWC.
     
  10. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    This. Is there any minelayer in the game (with mine) those SWC cost is not 0.5 ?
     
  11. BLOODGOD

    BLOODGOD Vampire Hunter

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    Le Muet, Bagh-mari multi-sniper, Nikoul, maybe more? But they all seem to pay 0 SWC for minelayer and 1.5 for their multi/viral sniper rifles.
     
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  12. MikeTheScrivener

    MikeTheScrivener O-12 Peace Kepper

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    Haqqislam
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    FARZAN (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)

    0 SWC | 23 Points

    Open in Infinity Army



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  13. BLOODGOD

    BLOODGOD Vampire Hunter

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    Sad face is right.
     
  14. Xeurian

    Xeurian Well-Known Member

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    To be fair they are AVA 1 in Vanilla and in HB the other profiles are the only Infiltrating specialists (outside of Yasbir).
     
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    Mcgreag Well-Known Member

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    YURIKO ODA Combi Rifle, Panzerfaust, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 24)
     
  16. JoKeR

    JoKeR HAWZA Instructor
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    And now just think.
    SWC cost show the resources your command spend to equip your trooops...
    How easely it to find Helot-Libertos outside the Varuna? How much it cost to savely send him to a Paradiso for example?
    (yes, both if them could cost SWC as well, so better take that we have now)
     
  17. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Muyibs have 0 swc minelayers as well... 1 profile with viral mines and the other with both AP mines and e/Maulers.
     
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  18. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    Those are non-infiltrating, however, so offer a lot less board control
     
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  19. paraelix

    paraelix Seed Embryo Scholar

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    Neither is Yuriko - who was listed above :P
     
  20. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    So conclusion is : 0.5 SWC is the max cost for minelayer, with a cost of 0 for some. Then why is the libertos 1SWC, is there a special thing in the SWC matrix for him or is it his mercenary status that make him more costly ?
     
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