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Shock Army's 'leaving present' should be...

Discussion in 'PanOceania' started by Riquende, Oct 14, 2018.

  1. Judge Dredd

    Judge Dredd Well-Known Member
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    Wish he got a spitfire at least or one of those fancy red fury's.
     
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  2. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    All this makes me feel even stronger that something doesn't add up. CB is obviously able to change their course when it comes to PanO design, we're seeing hints of increased creativity or at least increased care everywhere in the news about the new stuff. And then they're deciding to restrict a well liked and used unit with a distinctive profile? Invalidating some good sculpts just as people doubled down on buying them out before they'll become unavailable? I'm telling you, something's fishy around here, and it ain't the Libertos.
     
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  3. Urobros

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    I have the same feeling, and I usually don't use REMS, except Palbots. Still, I hope that new AVA will be a mistake.

    Moving only 4''/2'', maybe not the fastest way to catch that injured Tik :P I have to see how it works in the table.

    Not, you are not alone. I like the actual ORC haris. So, I'am excited about this new option, but we will see. I'am exceptical until we have all the info in the ARMY.

    I really think RAO is a good profile. I don't know what the people believe is wrong with him, really. We need an ajustement to Kirpal in order to make him work, not RAO. With the "wildcard" option I think RAO have an important Upgrade.

    Yea, we have now something wich we can put down that consoles not only with D-Charges. HURRA!! :)

    No, please. Not that.

    Sounds too pretty for me, we don't have a gift like that.

    In a bike? With 2 wounds? Maybe is too powerfull, but I buy the red fury's or marksman AP rifle...???

    I don't understant that phrase... :'(
     
  4. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    It's an idiom which means "there's something suspicious going on". It's also a bad and overused pun referencing Helots :P

    His problem is that he's beyond boring. He's basically a basic Bagh-Mari that exchanges his shotgun for +1 WIP and Assault Pistol. Characters should bring something unique and interesting to their armies, to make them stand out.
     
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  5. Rey

    Rey Crabbots lead the way

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    I hope you're right... and something will change or we'll get more info, like, the old Montesas will remain as a separate unit with shared AVA or something like this. BUT! I thought that rifle-shaped Feuerbach was also a mistake, as it did not add up, cause they had all those cool details on the concepts... And, eventually, see what we've got. A great indicator for me. Actually, I was so confident that it can't be true, I had such a great trust in CB that I bet 10 bucks that it was a mistake when the first low-quality photos of the render appeared. I don't trust CB anymore.
     
  6. daboarder

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    Wrong thread
     
  7. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Well, they have a mixed track record. As I've stated before, I'm not convinced that I'm right, I just have a wish-reinforced hunch. We should see today.

    And yeah, that Feuerbach design is just lazy. I'll be converting mine using a parts from old Azra'il's one.
     
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  8. Teslarod

    Teslarod when in doubt, Yeet

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    Bad things:
    Mixed Links and SWC still MIA, current information is next to useless.
    Some troops lost AVA and bitching about that is probably okay - but really doesn't matter so let's move on.
    Montesa sculpt is pretty much useless. I just ordered 2 starters amd will have two Spitfires...
    Bike Montesa did't get to keep the LRL, that was the biggest disappointment on my side. LGLs can go die in a fire IMHO. Good riddance for anyäything that promotes RNG and shitty Lt mechanics.
    Libertos: the first min maxxed Merc in ages and of course it's unavailable for PanO, classic.

    Good points:
    Tik/Squalo Duo, pretty much exclusively for use with Wildcard.
    New Montesa - did you guys see thae garbage YJ get? Our toy is miles better.
    Good CC, Regular Imp, Mimetic, DTW, DA CCW, 8-4 sweeper BSG after the usual firr superiority piece clears a lane. No AHD. Godly.
    Most of the good stuff is only hinted at. Links look very promising. If Helots have half of the Special rules Libertos get (Dogged/Hyperdynamics/Lted Camo/FDL 2...) they're gonna be PanO's substitute for a Warband.
     
  9. CoffeeBadger

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    Bulleteer and Mulebot AVA in Army is still 2 by the way. Also mixed link of Bagh Maris and Regulars (2 BM can join a regular core link). I guess that makes it worth picking up a BM box?
     
  10. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Mixed links are ok. Old Montesa being removed makes the bikes a net loss, though I'll use them with pleasure. Rao and Singh left unchanged is a major wtf.
     
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  11. eciu

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    Poor Rao and Singh :(

    New Machinist is a LOL ;P, on the other hand old one would be quite a liability for Bagh-Mari to take (no mimetism and terrain skill).
     
  12. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Hey, we got a second Engineer, rejoice :V

    Seriously, though, I like it. Mixed Regular Core will be awesome. Biker will see a lot of play, though loss of MechDep hurts.
     
  13. McNamara

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    I am really puzzled about there idea of a good use for Singh. Raoul basically is what Singh should be and the Echo Bravo seems to be similar to with the EM weapons. I mean they are able to do it but simply don't want to correct their faults. Simply giving him Executive Order would still be better the what its now. So stupid and frustrating.
     
  14. Ayadan

    Ayadan Knight of the TAG Order

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    I really love the SAA Machinist. I have at least one list where I'm seeing playing it.
     
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  15. Rebel-187

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    Shock Army's 'leaving present' should be...

    A new Guarda de Assalto Mini
     
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  16. Cartographer

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    ***cough*** use the current Montessa, it's not like it's got a profile anymore amirite? ***cough***
     
  17. daboarder

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    Asa always had 2 machinists

    Edit:
    Ahhh army is updated.

    So.....no changes to rao no changes to singh....so we got kicked in the gonads for the montessa and mixed links as a good bye. Bittersweet for sure. Not seeing anything that helps that montessa really levereage its new skills to well though in asa.
    Going to check MO
     
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  18. Janzerker

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    Man, this is starting to sound like self entittlement.
    Designers and testing team have been hearing all the wishes and complaints of PanO international forum community for all these years since N3 was released. If as you say it's "their fault" and they reallly thought it was fault and something lacking for the gameplay style they have envisioned for PanO then you would have seen those changes.

    At the current state they have reworked some sectorials and given new ones. It's clear PanO is getting some nice stuff from what we've seen until now. New stuff that will add more options, versatility and open new tactics to PanO play. An army with 4 sectorials that offers different playstyles each one.

    You have seen the rework for Acontecimento troops and Singh and Rao remain almost unchanged. Therefore it's not designer's fault but how they want these units to be. So now it's time PanO players, or I should say the international PanO forum community, bear up with these changes and accept reality. Intending designers accept to introduce all the ideas suggested is just plain selfish self entitlement.

    And now if you excuse me I go back to trying to wrap up my head with whatever Gutier has thought for YuJing, the faction specialist in cardboard servoarmors and useless CC bloat.
     
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  19. meikyoushisui

    meikyoushisui Competitor for Most Ignored User

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    >Implying people weren't doing that before since the guarda is so damn ugly
     
  20. daboarder

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    Oh were at the point where we are calling people entitled now for thinking a product is poor.

    Haha go full GW people, do it
     
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