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Discussion in 'News' started by Elessar, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. ev0k

    ev0k Well-Known Member

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    Told ya...
     
  2. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    So CB joined ORCtober ?;P
     
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  3. ev0k

    ev0k Well-Known Member

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    It's all about ORCganization...
     
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  4. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    So apparently Libertos will be a new Mercenary for everyone but PanO ?

    Nice to see quite a lot of a new art-work, that's always welcome.
     
  5. Modock

    Modock Well-Known Member

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    No Tunguska in the book?
     
  6. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    IA confirmed.

    But is that a Shasvaasti freedom fighter?!
     
  7. Melkhior

    Melkhior Doing filthy things for EI

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    IMHO it is Helot freedom figher.
     
  8. kesharq

    kesharq Lucky Dice-Roller

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    So its

    Combined Army
    Varuna
    Aleph Operations
    Invincible Army
    TAK
    And a Helot Freedom Fighter as Limited Edition Miniature.

    Most interesting for me is Invincible Army - that's why I will get the book.

    New Question: What happened to Haqq Ramah Sectorial??
     
  9. Ursun

    Ursun Tough as Nails, Grim as Old Boots

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    Im so sad they didnĀ“t put him in a hawaaii shirt and cargo shorts, that would be funny and fitting :D
     
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  10. Del S

    Del S Tunguskaball

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    Libertos is indeed a Helot.

    Disappointing there's no Tunguska fluff apparent. Guess we fell through the cracks.

    By that logic, the most offensive symbol on Earth is actually this:

    $

    It should also be noted that Communism (mainly Stalinism and Maoism, plus Juche of NK, though the three arguably have relation) killed through incompetence more than deliberate effort. Millions, yes, but not quite "several hundred million" because the highest figures not from total wingnuts are between 90 to 161 million. Even the highest estimates should be taken with a grain of salt as the methodologies aren't precise. There's also the fact that by lumping it by ideology in general you inflate numbers, and that actually distorts figures for other mass casualty scenarios. AIDS might kill 100 million in Africa alone by 2025. Chorea and Influenza have killed many hundreds of millions each over the centuries. The British Empire alone and Slavery may have killed as many each as Communism, not to mention the huge numbers one can get by using "imperialism and effects tied to imperialism" the same way some estimates of all communist casualties will cover all deaths linked to the ideology. After all, Communism can be argued to be a side effect of Imperialism....

    Also helps to remember there are differences between ideology even within the same word. Socialism to some may be indistinguishable from Communism, but there are dozens of branches and dogmas. Same with Capitalism, Liberalism, Conservativism, Libertarianism, Anarchism. Politics isn't black and white, and pretending we must hide all symbols tied to atrocities just because some places hide Nazi symbols is just silly. If you do that you pretty much hide every symbol ever

    It got ramah'd down the line to later.
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  11. Lesh'

    Lesh' Infinity LATVIA
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    no direct mentioning of Morats. a bit worried :/
     
  12. ev0k

    ev0k Well-Known Member

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    I was also much disappointed when i was told there would be no TJC inside, but all the other stuff, especially IA, compensated well enough.
     
  13. 0rph3u5

    0rph3u5 TAG, you're it! :3

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    They put Invincible Army under "new narrative" so I think it'll just be fluff. Still probably won't see IA until January
     
  14. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    You may be correct, however, there's been talk about teaser releases this year, so they might be releasing a single profile and/or a character to "set the stage".
     
  15. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    That's some pretty impressive ignorance and just plain stupidity on display :D
    Doesn't matter who it was. One of the core principles is equality of all; the moment you move into hereditary aristocracy or monarchy officially, you are no longer even trying to do it. You can keep calling yourself something, but you are not it.
    That may be so, but note that they can practice some communist/socialist principles without being communist/socialist. Life is not a black/white divide, but they most certainly are not even close to doing it. And again, I don't remember any note that they are pretending to be doing it.

    As for the star as the symbol, historical reasons are plenty to account for this.
     
  16. Zsolt

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    Libertos, Helot (Pano fishmen from Varuna) rebels/separatists/whatevers, if anyone hasn't watched the trailer yet.
     
  17. 0rph3u5

    0rph3u5 TAG, you're it! :3

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    Talk, but any official word? I want new IA stuff just as much as anyone else (I need my beefy HI), but I'll wait until official word. Gutier apparently said we'd see a peak of IA at the "end of the year", but we'll see.
     
  18. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    No, no offense but you have literally no idea what you're talking about.

    1. Money is not an ideology, although I suspect some far radical leftists perceive it as such due to their world view is mirred in power politics.

    2. The "incompetence" excuse is a disgusting lie spread around socialist apologists. EVERY SINGLE socialist regime have NEVER failed to be corrupt terror regimes who systematically killed and starved their people, by force.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/opinion/16iht-eddikotter16.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mugabe
    And I could go on and on and on.

    3. "There's also the fact that by lumping it by ideology in general you inflate numbers, and that actually distorts figures for other mass casualty scenarios." What nonsense is this? Literally every country that have implemented socialism have ended up as corrupt murderous hellholes. There's literally no exception to this. None. Blaming it on socialism is simply reasonable inference

    4. the second largest death toll on a disease is the "Spanish flu", which isn't even close to the death toll of Socialism.

    5. "After all, Communism can be argued to be a side effect of Imperialism...." Citation please, this does not follow... like.. at all. Have you read the Communist Manifesto?

    6. "Socialism to some may be indistinguishable from Communism" Common mistake made by many Leighman. The reason why pro communists people keep parotting the hillarious line of "real communism hasn't been done" is because they are technically correct. The end goal of socialism is communism, you need to implement the total tyranny of socialism in order to achieve the end goal of communism, at which point the socialist state needs no longer exist, and the state and laws of the state can be abolished.
     
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  19. Zewrath

    Zewrath Elitist Jerk

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    Why did you even think this hillariously bad strawman would even be close to my persona? You're literally the meme pro censur SJW type (from Sweden no less, the meme SJW country) and I responded sarcastically at someone who thinks its totally okay to show the symbol of a terrible ideology but some other stupid ideology is super haram for reasons beyond me.

    The fact that you think I'm trying to hide "offensive symbols" is hillarious to me.
     
  20. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Polite request - please stop the extremely off-topic political discussion? :unamused:

    @psychoticstorm
     
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