Hassassin Bahram Tackling Hunting Party

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  1. Envihon

    Envihon The Sword of Haqqislam, High Commander Envihon

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    I have an upcoming tournament that has the mission Hunting Party in it and I have been looking over how to tackle this with Hassassin Bahram. I am trying to resist the temptation to say screw and play vanilla Haqqislam because I am devoting this ITS season to playing Hassassin exclusively. Out of all the Haqqislam armies, Hassassin has the most challenge with this mission since it has no Veteran troops, only two Elite Troops and one HQ Troop.

    The most obvious thing to include in the list is the Isolation specialists themselves, the Muttawi'ah. This is a given and I plan on taking max AVA of 4 for them, I would be foolish not to.

    The rest of the way to handle it is not so obviously. I was thinking Govads because they can't be Isolated forcing them to have to be IMM with Stun ammunition but that's where their advantage ends.

    The only Elite Troops we have are the Ragiks and the Ayyar.

    Ayyar are a bit expensive and eat up points quickly but still Surprise Shot Lvl 2 with an ADHL would be quite useful in taking down enemies but he is an HI and a Specialist risking the fact that it would allow your opponent to score.

    Ragiks look like a great option. With their combat drop, that have a great way to get up the board and able to ambush your opponent. You could include the Hacker but again, it risks giving points to your opponent but at the same time, there are two Classifieds to get done and two Antenna buttons that need to be pressed. I am going to try and include at least two in the list even if they are just with a boarding shotgun to save on points.

    Now we come to where I become conflicted, because it basically feels like you choose the Ayyar or go with the HQ troops option: the Asawira, a unit that I am absolutely in love with at the moment. They have a BTS 9 which is a great defense against hacking over the Ayyar and they have a Fireteam. Also the BS 14 and PH 14 will also come in handy with this mission. Also, the Assault with a Stun Pistol and Martial Arts L2 would do great to cause IMM-1 on some stuff. They seem to have a really good kit to get the job done.

    As much as I want to bring the Ayyar, I feel like the Asawira Haris and Ragiks is a good avenue to go down with a defensive Ghulam link team to provide AROs and Orders for the Haris. I want to include the Doctor but I feel like the Haris might want to be free of Specialists but at the same time, there are buttons to press and Classifieds to be done so including the Asawira Doctor might be a good thing especially with BTS 9 to protect them.

    Just looking for ideas here to see how get the juices flowing. The thing I was considering was a Govad Core, to press buttons and do some Classifieds leaving the Ragiks and Ayyar to hunt out the enemy but now I am leaning towards Ghulam Core, Asawira Haris, with 2-3 Asawira and then filling the rest with Ragiks as much as possible. Anyone have experience with doing Hunting Party as Hassassin?
     
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  2. norsecompass

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    Here is the list I plan on taking to an upcoming event.

    [​IMG] Hunters
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] ASAWIRA (Fireteam: Haris) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 44)
    [​IMG] MUYIB Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun, D.E.P. / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] MUYIB Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (Normal and Smoke Ammo.) / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 23)
    [​IMG] RAGIK Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] AL-DJABEL Rifle + Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Viral CCW, Knife. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Sniper Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 16)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17)
    [​IMG] NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    5.5 SWC | 299 Points

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    The idea is to try an eliminate the non-hunt-able targets first, or at least keep their heads down while I get closer. Lots of smoke will help the Asawira get into killing/hunting range with a Dr to pick him up if needed. The Rajik will be a backup or target of opportunity hunter, no need to spend extra on her as she is dedicated to gluing things. Al-Djabel will provide smoke and kill dangerous targets. The Ghulam team should keep peoples heads down and let the rest of the hunters move. The engineer is crucial in this mission, the only one who can un-glue your other specialist, keep him safe. The rest of combat group 2 is order batteries for the mutts, let them do what they do.

    With Hunting Party keep in mind that you just need to glue one more specialist or Lt than your enemy. Don't be afraid to kill dangerous specialists or Lts if gluing them would be too dangerous.
     
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  3. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    I think the above post hit the nail on the head. While gluing and isolating people is the name of the game, don't be afraid to kill the threats that can make mince meat of your Ghazi.
     
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  4. Ixidro

    Ixidro Deep agent infiltrated in PanOceanian HQ

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    I haven't played this mission with Bahram yet, although the most optimal list to me it's @norsecompass one. But you know, sometimes to win everything you have to set the stakes very high, feel the adrenaline through your veins, pump the gas up to eleven, go big or go home. So, what if we throw 4 Ragiks into the same list? :sunglasses:

    [​IMG] "This is not flying, This is falling with style"
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 17)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 15)
    [​IMG] GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] LEILA SHARIF Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Shock Marksman Rifle, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] RAGIK Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] RAGIK Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] RAGIK Spitfire / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] RAGIK Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 32)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]5 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] GOVAD Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] KAMEEL Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
    [​IMG] FANOUS REMOTE Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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    In my defense, I did it without proper adult supervision.

    Coordinate the 4 Ragiks and try to land them in a good spot using the bonus from the EVO kameel. Keep a close eye to your opponent's face to see his priceless reaction, either amazement, fear or facepalm: you're doing it because you can :smirk:

    The Govad LT can't be isolated, so your opponent has to either kill her or glue her. But if you prefer you can remove her from the list, switching the Panzerfaust Ghulam fot a Ghulam LT and adding something else more useful.
     
  5. Barrogh

    Barrogh Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if coordinating the drop does anything unless you're doing so in plain sight.

    Also, some people may argue on the nature of Veteran in this mission.
     
  6. Envihon

    Envihon The Sword of Haqqislam, High Commander Envihon

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    This is mostly what had me considering the Govads because the Veteran helps them from being isolated. It makes the hacking Govads attractive because they can't be isolated by enemy AHDs and they don't fear Mutts.

    After testing a list with 2 Ragiks, I am re-working it to take an Ayyar and a Ragik. An ADHL from Surprise Shot Level 2 is pretty good for making sure that your opponent has a hard time answering the Ayyar when he pops out of Holoprojector plus the Free Agent can be quite useful.
     
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