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List for S10 biotechvore

Discussion in 'Yu Jing' started by Hsien, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Hsien

    Hsien Well-Known Member
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    Hello all, I need a little help with this mission. Have very low exp with this, but on our next tournament I have it. So I'd like to have some advice for ISS list.
    For now I'm thinking about wu Ming core -
    [​IMG] Imperial Service──────────────────────────────────────────────────GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG MULTI Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 39)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
    [​IMG] WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]3
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Sixth Sense L1) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
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  2. descrii

    descrii Well-Known Member

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    The list looks good for the "kill the enemy" part of Biotechvore, but lousy for the Classifieds. You can get up to 4 points from Classifieds, but this list has no hackers and no veteran or elite troops and no sensors or visors, so there will be about seven classifieds you can't achieve. How about swapping one of the wu ming for a zhanying hacker? The zhanying is a veteran troop type, so can do missions like capture and net-undermine, and a hacker so can do missions like data scan and hvt espionage, plus can act as a backup if you lose your forward observer for some other classifieds. Plus I think it's pretty great for defending the wu ming against other hackers and can spotlight for your grenade launcher.
     
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  3. Hsien

    Hsien Well-Known Member
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    Thanks for reply, don't trust to zhanying in wu ming link. I think it's a weak part of wu-ming link, but i'll try him.
    I have second list, but it seems not be good for this mission.

    [​IMG] Imperial Service
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] CRANE IMPERIAL AGENT (X Visor) Spitfire, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10 [​IMG]4
    [​IMG] GARUDA Tacbot Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 28)
    [​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    6 SWC | 299 Points

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  4. East of Irem

    East of Irem Well-Known Member

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    I certainly used to like the wu ming team for biotechvore in its9, a resilient block of well equipped HI is quite an asset in that mission. Lock your opponent into their deployment death zone and your laughing.
    Has anyone played with the new cards and intelcom rules? Im curious how much of a difference they make to biotechvore strategy.
     
  5. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Your second list looks like a lot of guys to die to the Biotechvore zone.

    Biotechvore is one of the few where I take Bao troops as a fireteam. Their BTS 6 is very good for this mission. Their X-visor’s and MSV also comes in handy. Even with the penalty for Infiltration, many will take Camo Infiltrators to try to start the game outside of the zone.

    For your own, I don’t recommend Kanren to try to get forward, they only have a PH 10. So it’s not likely for them to get the roll and they have a mediocre BTS3.
    Ninja isn’t as bad, but if you lose him, it’s a lot of points.
    Garuda too is -3 PH to combat Jump however if he loses the CJ he can fall back on a 6-4 Mov.

    Su-Jian is fantastic all the time but when you have a combo of 8-4 Mov and BTS 6, it’s kind of hard not see how good it is.

    The thing that irks me about BTV is also that it has 3 Classified! So you need to try to get those in too!
     
  6. descrii

    descrii Well-Known Member

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    Don't you find it hard to deploy 20 guys in your deployment zone? I can never find good spots for so many. I only go to high model counts like that if some have forward deployment, airborne, and infiltration to get them out of my dz.
     
  7. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It's even worse in this Mission since the deployment zone is only 8"! Going to be pretty crowded.
     
  8. REND

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    I have yet to play this mission in the current ITS but have hated it from day 1. Some factions have a much easier time of it dependent on smoke, camo, etc... Yu Jing aren't too bad and ISS are actually pretty good thanks to link options and easy smoke.

    The lists look fine as a straight up kill the enemy list as has been said, it's a little weak for classified objectives. The zahnying may not be as tough as a Wu ming but it's an interesting and useful option if you build with it in mind correctly. In a link with a tinbot B to skew the face to face rolls in your favour a zahnying hacker can be a very useful addition to a team of Wu ming (also running fairy dust if you want) but I wouldn't regard it as vital addition. I would normally want a tinbot for any HI link though. That -6 to enemy hackers is a big deal.

    I'm also never very sure about Kuang shi spam (even at the best of times), since the deployment zone is small and if you've lots of models the space to deploy in can get cramped quickly. Extreme impetuousness can quickly suicide your troops if the opponents have any template weapons as they run around corners and the blast catches the friends they ran past on the way.

    I would consider dropping the bounty hunter sniper for a celestial guard hacker. Just for another specialist and that aforementioned option to help buff up the defences of the Wu ming against enemy hacking.
     
  9. Hsien

    Hsien Well-Known Member
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    Ooops... forgot this moment, DZ 8 is really small for 20 guys.


    Can you show your bao list, i tried to make some list with them, but didn't find good one.
    Su-Jian is great, thinking about it.
    Garuda needs to past ph-test if it doesn't
     
  10. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It's only a Haris for the Bao. The Zhanying is there just because he's a Veteran for some Classified but I really do like Madtraps and Sensor as well.

    [​IMG] Imperial Service
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]7
    [​IMG] PHEASANT IMPERIAL AGENT (Chain of Command, Fireteam: Haris) Red Fury / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (1.5 | 36)
    [​IMG] BÀO TROOP (X Visor, Multispectral Visor L2) Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
    [​IMG] BÀO TROOP (Multispectral Visor L2) Boarding Shotgun, Contender / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
    [​IMG] DAKINI Tacbot Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 15)
    [​IMG] SÙ-JIÀN Spitfire, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 59)
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING (Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades, MadTraps / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0 | 28)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)

    5.5 SWC | 298 Points

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  11. Hsien

    Hsien Well-Known Member
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    Hmm..i think group 1 is to heavy for 7 orders and su-jian, sophotect and haris. May be you should split units?

    For now i'd like to test new list:

    [​IMG] Imperial Service
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] CRANE IMPERIAL AGENT (X Visor) Spitfire, 2 Nanopulsers / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
    [​IMG] XI ZHUANG Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, MadTraps / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] CHAĪYÌ Yaókòng Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]8 [​IMG]2
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
    [​IMG] SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING (Fireteam: Haris, Sensor) Breaker Combi Rifle, Nimbus Grenades / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 27)
    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING Hacker (Hacking Device) Breaker Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 32)
    [​IMG] ZHÀNYING HMG / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1 | 30)
    [​IMG] RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
    [​IMG] CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
    [​IMG] KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

    6 SWC | 300 Points

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  12. Hsien

    Hsien Well-Known Member
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    Yesterday i played list with zhanying haris, and it didn't show well. Need some hard control and fast runners.
     
  13. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I always play with something new at least 3 times before I decide if it works for me or not. They might be great in one situation and horrible in another.
     
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