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Hunt for Red [October Releases]

Discussion in 'News' started by Solar, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    The first we learn of it, apart from a cryptic "Acontecimento explodes" note on a timeline sketch, was a leaked memo to retailers/distributors, phrased with a very impersonal and corporate vibe. There has been no official denial nor confirmation nor any attempt at presenting it in a friendlier way to players or, if we're being callous, damage control. And all this not long after the clusterfuck that was Uprising.
    It's a textbook example of inadequate communication.
     
  2. Space Cowboy

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    Yes. But an improvement on the uprising snafu. :no_mouth:
     
  3. Pierzasty

    Pierzasty Null-Space Entity

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    A textbook example of damning with faint praise. :P
     
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  4. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Just an idea regarding sectorial going oop : CB could keep the mrrf and saa (anf future other oop) available « on their website only »

    They still have the molds to produce the mini so keeping the production on demand only should be doable

    It will free space on the flgs shelves but will keep the sectorial available for those who truly want it

    What do you think of this ?
     
  5. SKOZZOKONZ

    SKOZZOKONZ Well-Known Member

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    Bostria straight up said in the SA Q&A that the reaction to uprising isnt going to change shit about how the operate if it didnt make them bolder.
     
  6. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    JSA are a really nice sectorial and it feels like "a lot of care went into it".

    We've found out that CB are now considering sectorials as full blown forces and are designing them differently. I think it shows in how JSA and Tungaska (being probably the first 2 sectorials embracing this idea) are designed.

    I haven't really deep dived on TAK and OSS yet but both of them seem to also have very interesting options/generally seem amazing. I don't quite buy the nomad favouritism, nomads don't ever seem to appear at the top of ITS tournaments either so I think we're OK on the OP or no weaknesses front.

    Given how little the most vocal complainers seem to listen and consider what Bostria is saying (and in some cases of dismissing or accusing him of being deceptive), I don't really blame him.
     
  7. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because "I don't give a shit about my customers because I don't like what some of them say about me" is a totally mature and legit way to go about a business. Also, I don't think Bostria is deceptive in purpose, but half the time it seems he doesn't entirely know what he is talking about (Yadu being "uber flexible fireteam members", Traktor Muls getting new weapons, Sophotects getting special links are just some of the latest examples); that one time when he straight laughed at Yu Jing players who were legitimately sore about the Uprising shitstorm was also really classy.

    On the topic at hand, I'm pretty amazed at people saying the OOP sectorials are gonna get played with no minis available. Kinda reminds me of all that people who say they are gonna keep playing the old, unsupported edition of some game because they don't like the new one (spoiler: they never do)
     
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  8. Alkasyn

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    All the signs point to that happening.
     
  9. Alphz

    Alphz Kuang Shi Vet. Retired.

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    Anecdotally people play shasvaasti/MRRF and they've been iced for how long now?

    Evidence, meet trumped up speculation.
     
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  10. Benkei

    Benkei Well-Known Member

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    Shasvastii has been iced how? Last i checked you can still but them on every store. And Mero has been OOP for what, a month?

    I honestly don't know if you don't want to understand what I'm saying or it is a serious reading comprehension problem
     
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  11. sarf

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    I see the point to be disappointed and at the same time don`t see the point.
    Losing anything doesn`t make you feel better, sure thing.
    But regarding SAA here we have two separate entities:
    1) Player like SAA models and wants to play with it. Sure under current proxy rules he`s free to play with, for example, Regulars models, as anything he wants to.
    2) Player like SAA sectorial profiles and rules. He could use profiles and play sectorial with another models on his likes.
    Also we have two intersections of these entities:
    i1) Player already have SAA models and want to play SAA sectorial. No problem here from both sides.
    i2) Player don`t have SAA models (because OOP) and want to play SAA sectorial only with specific SAA models. These players are right to be disappointed, true story. But there are a lot of things to mitigate this disappointment: new shiny sectorial, new shiny models to be used instead etc.
    Things going OOP all the time, that`s how everything works. Really, I can`t buy replacement for my mouse because of unique shape, damn you, ASUS, you`ve ruined computer usage forever!
     
  12. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    Idea of "those product are online store (Corvus Belli store) exclusive" is an interesting one.

    I wonder why it wasn't chosen.
     
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  13. sarf

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    Also, less polite and a separate statement: want a mini, buy it. Hypothetically want a specific mini in 2022? Yeah, sure, you of course could buy it in bundle with brand new PS3 console.
     
  14. sarf

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    I guess because they don`t have money to develop and produce new stuff and store and occasionally produce old stuff.

    I wonder why they don`t use "while stock last" idea, it could be great for everybody who wants to get their hands on some specific mini before going OOP.
     
  15. Benkei

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    So if i want to maybe start SAA one year from now I should buy ALL the line now? And why should I want a PS3 in 2022 when I will be able to get the same thing, only better (also thank you for reinforcing my point, that SAA is dead with this OOP thing, just like PS3)? If you want to argue, have the decency of providing at the very least convincing arguments and not half-jokes
     
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  16. eciu

    eciu Easter worshiper

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    They could also go with "Made to Order".

    Announce during a "calmer time" that you provide option to buy some OOP models.

    Get the orders, and produce enough for those + overhead for possible miscasts.
     
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  17. sarf

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    I made whole statement with arguments in post #211, could you please read all posts, not just react to one.
    I compare this situation to some console because it looks exact like motion in retrogaming - play games on original hardware. You can`t buy older "better" console and have all games library of previous one be available. It doesn`t work this way for a long time. If you want old console, buy it while stock last or buy it used.
    Of course there are remasters of old games for new hardware. Buuuut, this is exact same thing as resculpts in miniature wargame. I could provide example of Chasseur - definitely remaster for all Ariadna players to be used.
     
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  18. Benkei

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    So what you are telling me is that SAA is as dead as an old console, which is precisely my point.

    Also, do I REALLY have to point out this is not a resculpt of a sectorial?
     
  19. sarf

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    Oh, and I`ve missed other fun thing. Thank you for proving my statement)))
    If you are happy to buy new and better version of game console in future (it won`t play old games because it won`t) why aren`t you exact same happy with same things in miniatures? New "better" sectorials and so on)))))
     
  20. Benkei

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    Because there is NOT a new SAA to buy? I mean, really? Do I have to point that out?
     
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