D'oh! I knew that, just managed to forget. Dammit, that messes with the whole thing. I mean, AHD's better than nothing against enemy hackers, but it's not exactly great. Hrrgh... *checks programs* Huh! Nevermind, the Deva's AHD has Lightning, which is wonderful for shutting down enemy hackers. You don't have the Firewall-ignoring of a Killer, but you've got a Dam15 B2 Breaker that causes a -6 on the enemy. That's... pretty damn good.
Ah well, that just makes it more situational which, is good rather, than a no-brainer. Sendt fra min VTR-L29 med Tapatalk
Since I never played with a fireteam before, I have a stupid question for getting thinks clear: Can I link Dakinis with Yadus since they both have Core? Or is something like that called fireteam special and isnt possible.
Standard fireteam is formed from a single unit, so up to five Devas can form a Core, up to three Yadu can form a Haris (one of them has to have the Haris option), and so on. Special fireteams allow to mix and match, with every case having its own specific description.
And they've got a BSG, which when combined with the five-man bonus from a full Core and firing at something within 8" is firing at effective BS21! While Dakinis under an Apsara in the same situation may be at effective BS19, those extra two really make a difference, even past the BSG's Dam14 instead of the CR's 13. Doubles the chance to crit, if nothing else - and at B3 from Fireteam bonuses, that's a 27.1% chance of a crit... While a CSU can do the same thing with their shotgun as the AHDeva, along with having a 1 in 10 chance not to slow the Dakini Fireteam down, the AHDeva can do that in addition to being able to hack pretty damn well.
No. They tried to make andromeda usefull, and at the same time released DART which is countless times better. I kinda feel you are cramming as much cheap units to reach these 17 orders. You don't have a single naga, which is imo one of the best unit in ALEPH. You take 4 repeater remotes for orders, while you only have 2x AHD. The moment a KHD shows up it means trouble with that many repeaters.
For melee inside a sectorial without a single melee centered unit (aside from the Arjuna and their +2B from synchros trick using the gun inside melee XD)
You can't perceive the utility of a unit that infiltrates on to the other half of the board on 15s, is the only competent unit in the sectorial for CC, brings D-Charges, and has nothing but useful gun options? I mean, ok. You do you.
I dont think that Dart is THAT great and Andromeda is THAT bad. Yeah, shes no Shinobu, but when going first on a mission like Frostbyte or Looting and Sabotaging I can see the usefulness of Anndromeda.
If you play against Ariadna it's ridiculous. Behold, I walk around the corner and Nanopulser your core fireteam. Oh you declared dodge? Cool I'll just SMG your face in instead.
Yep. Also? Some classifieds: Sabotage is obvious, but she's perfect for Net-Undermine and is the only game in town reasonably equipped for Predator.
If you can whack a link of Frontoviks with a Nanopulser and kill 1-2 with one order in the 1st turn then you've already got fantastic value out of her.
If the other player is incompetent enough to position a whole fireteam easily placeable under a small template? He deserves it. More likely, you're giving your opponent a 31 point advantage.
Best part: Vedic dropped. Not in 3 months. It is *the* faction that got me to play infinity, and ALEPH in particular. The sectorial itself.... there are too many things that I want to try, and they don't all fit in a list or 4. That is *good*, it means that the sectorial might be very diverse, even with its limited troop selection. Lack of smoke is expected, but still disappointing. It really does neuter the effectiveness of the Marut, and even with plenty of smoke it was already a very arguable troop. Andromeda... might finally be useful. Superior infiltration is great, and even if she is still not *that* good, at least a superior infiltrating andromeda is threat enough to keep your enemy on his toes during deployment, or risk being crippled by a alpha strike. Even she is not on the table, the possibility that she opens is good enough. Apsaras... Im not convinced. Jumper is pretty much only effective on a Dakini link, and it is still worse than Marksmanship lv2. Yes, it does not cost the order used for the hacking program, but it does cost 22 points sunk into a otherwise useless profile. New profiles for Devas are great. And now with a Dakini link not carrying a repeater, even the HD Deva is actually useful. Sforza is great for actually hiding HD troops, and he is good on his own too. Shukra is great. 0SWC somewhat cheap COC on a faction that has quite a few lts that want to go HAM is very nice. Shakti is fantastic. It is pretty much a all-in-one unit, and even though it is not fantastic on any aspect, she is good enough everywhere. Just.... why does she have Sucker Punch? Arjunas... im not sure. Mimetism and BS12 make them great gunfighters, yes, and the bots make them good at holding ground. But I feel they might be a bit too much jack-of-all trades. I am not sure yet, will have to play a few games to see if I figure out how to feel. Yadus I am not convinced by. Yeah, they effectively have 2 wounds, but they sit on that really unconfortable price range that is too expensive for just a gunfighter that is not a great gunfighter, like most plain HI do. Shakti works because she is a good gunfigther ( like Yadus ), but also great at many other areas - hacker, specialist, and has a marker state. Asuras. The standard ones are crap - as bad as they were in vanilla, and with no smoke support. The lv2 lts.... might be usable. I am still not convinced by them, mind you, but having 2 extra orders when you are going to have a CoC in the army anyway ( counterintelligence) might actually make them good. Maruts are bad in vvanilla and worse without smoke support. Also, they are the only decent way of killing a AC2 on Looting & Sabotaging, as the other options are Andromeda ( really not survivable) and melee D-charges on a faction that doesnt have great melee OR smoke to buy you safety. Dakinis could really have used a repeater profile, but at least they didn't loose anything. But full link + mimetism + marksmanship2 is murderous. Rudras are the gunboats the nomads wanted. 2 wounds makes them much better at actually taking the offensive, being able to afford getting critted once and still function. Yes, they are only reasonable gunfighters by themselves, but with marksmanship they are suddenly great. Weapon selection is weird, and I really miss a HMG there, but all options are workable. Biggest boon to the unit, TBH, is the mine dispenser and climbing plus, as both can give you a reach you wouldn't otherwise have. Samekh FTO is meh. All in all I think it is a pretty interesting setorial. It feels like it brings a lot of options, and not one approach is more valid than another on most situations. Right now I think that the sectorial is right on point - diverse, fun and approachable while still not overshadowing the variety you get in the vanilla army.
I find all this "no smoke, no Marut" talk hilarious. As though MSV2 has no useful purpose other than facile smoke n' shoot hijinks. I suppose PanO players are just insane for regularly running Nisses and Blackfriars? C'mon.
Nisses and Black Friars aren't a 120 point S7 TAG, it's a huge point investment that there isn't much pull to take when you have the option to give up links that are hard to afford at that point and just play her in vanilla. I said it before the Maruts is a big enough piece that you're building a list around her, you don't just throw her in because you need some MSV2, and if you're building a list around the MSV2 tag why would you willingly give up smoke?
