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What can we expect from Vedic

Discussion in 'ALEPH' started by Wyrmnax, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    Main problem is that our units have poor CC, meaning the whole "use D-Charge in melee" would be a poor choice - but Marut would be even worse. AP+EXP with CC13 is still better than normal, single PH15 attack with CC18. The best one for that mission would be Andromeda with D-Charges :'(
     
  2. Furiat

    Furiat Mandarin

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    There is also problem of delivery. With no smoke and only with andromeda closer to the objective, it can be hard to reach it.
     
  3. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Assuming the mission stays the same in ITS 10 of course.
     
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  4. RecklessPrudence

    RecklessPrudence Well-Known Member

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    Hmm... apart from the listed options, it looks like OperationS only alternative would be an order-intensive and prone-to-fail one of getting Forward Deploying/Infiltrating Forward Observers/Hackers (Mk2, Mk5, Dasyus, Nagas) to a Panoply, opting for D-Charges, and making a run for it. But if your opponent knows that's your only option, they could try to lock down the panoplies/routes from them to the AC2. And there's more moving parts and points of failure in that than 'get a melee troop, throw it at the thing,' even though only Achilles v2, Diomodes, or a generic Ekdromos has anything that can start them closer than the normal deployment line.
     
  5. Nenyx

    Nenyx Well-Known Member

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    The sophotech is a choice for that, 15/10 mvt, NWI and D-Charges could be good, but CC13 is just average.
     
  6. Wombat85

    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    I think if you just allowed electric pulse to count against them as well it would make the mission much better for everyone. Think R2 zapping a port and nuking the computer
     
  7. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Wrong genre. R2 is Fantasy, not SCi-FI :P
     
  8. theGricks

    theGricks Well-Known Member

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    Loot and Sabotage is a...clunky mission already. Its fun but some factions just do noticeably better than others simply due to unit selection. I could see it either being changed or removed. Otherwise OSS will have a hard time. I believe NCA has a tough time as well.
     
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  9. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Quite right, Infinity is 100% Sci-fi, with the Werewolves, lightsabers, Shaolin Monks, ninja, and Sith/Vampires/Umbra :P
     
  10. DukeofEarl

    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!
     
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  11. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    I just saw that the Asura Hacker with Multi Rifle load-out was corrected to cost 76 points. Continue the rejoicing and all :D

    Maybe, she'll even be LT option in the sectorial..
     
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  12. Tongfa

    Tongfa ULTRA INSTINCT UKR

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    Do you guys think that in OSS the AVA of Post-humans will increase beyond 1? Personally I hope not - would be way too strong.
     
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  13. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    Probably not, just like the puppets are ava 1 for both vanilla and sectorial in nomads
     
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  14. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    If anything I'd expect Posthumans to get more expensive in November. Somewhere around 3-5 pts per Proxy.
     
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  15. Nemo No Name

    Nemo No Name Aleph Cultural Atache

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    Sadly, I agree. It will change nothing except reduce Aleph Order pools and how often Aleph players take Dasyus and other higher-priced troopers.

    My preferred solution to Posthumans would be simple and limited: errata that they cannot be held in Reserve, any of them.
     
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  16. Jawasa

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    But hopefully nwi and msv 3 goes down in cost.
     
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  17. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    Hopefully by 9-12 points... so net change is 0 if you take proxies and an Asura ;)
     
  18. ZlaKhon

    ZlaKhon New scale enthusiast

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    Did I miss something that now everyone is sure posthumans will be in Vedic? I was still thinking they might be vanilla exclusive. Otherwise I‘d be way more hyped
     
  19. tdc

    tdc ALEPH Fragment
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    I can't remember if it has been said explicitly, but #1 there are other post humans in the sectorial (Dart) and #2 one of the BoW giveaways was the proxy mk2 box (hosts 4 and 5)
     
  20. Wombat85

    Wombat85 Well-Known Member

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    Personally I dont think this says anything. If you held up the box and asked them which army this belongs too, I think most of them (Killian exemt) would guess Necrons
     
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