Can you shoot less then maximum burst?

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  1. Sletchman

    Sletchman New Member

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    Question per title. Not talking about Fireteam burst bonus, since I'm well aware that is optional.

    Thing is, I can't see anything say you can't fire 2 shots with a Combi, however I also can't find anything saying you can, and Infinity is a permissive ruleset. The closest it gets is the somewhat conversational tone that the attack declaration rules are written in:

    • Each time a trooper declares a BS Attack, it can take as many shots as the Burst (B) value of its BS Weapon.
    • During the declaration of a BS Attack, the player can distribute a number of shots equal to the Burst value among one or more targets, as long as they are valid (within LoF, if needed).

    The use of "Can" could lead someone to assume that this, too, is optional. I'm not inclined to agree, personally, but I realise that this is entirely opinion based. Is there anywhere else in the rules, or examples of using less then max burst (that aren't based on optional skills / abilities)?

     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Nothing forces you to distribute the shots, only gives you permission to distribute a max number of them.

    The thing is, it's seldom beneficial to do this except to try and score a specific classified, so I imagine there's no real reason to make an example of this.
     
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  3. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    no example of less burst, but it was confirmed in forums that yes you can shoot less than max burst. Very usefull with pitcher in a link team.
     
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    dlfleetw Well-Known Member

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    Burst bonus in a link is different than nust shooting say once or twice with a B 3 weapon.

    I would say we would need a clarification from CB on that topic.
     
  5. Robock

    Robock Well-Known Member

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    True, i didn't realize the Burst bonus was actually Optional Automatic Skill. I thought it was always improving your Burst. And using B1 instead of B2 was a choice of using less than max B.
     
  6. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

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    Can someone provide a reason why you would want to drop your Burst when shooting someone with your HMG and make your Active Turn LESS survivable?
     
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    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Making your target fall unconscious instead of dead to be able to do classified objectives
     
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  8. macfergusson

    macfergusson Van Zant is my spirit animal.

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    I'd probably rather have my HMG dude more likely to win the face to face and risk that extra Wound on my target haha
     
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    Xeurian Well-Known Member

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    Probably in most cases but if it means the difference between winning or losing the game...
     
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    DukeofEarl Well-Known Member

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    or to be glued in Hunting Party
     
  11. kinginyellow

    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Hunting party is an easy one. Killing is largely irrelevant, but making someone unconscious to then hit with a stun round is how that game is won.
     
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  12. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Another corner case: prevent combat group switching.
     
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    kinginyellow Well-Known Member

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    Ooh, I never thought of that. That is devious.
     
  14. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    "Can" and "May" (and likewise "should") are words with implied optional status. MUST is a mandatory thing, no other options available.
    If it said " the player MUST distribute a number of shots equal to the Burst value" then there would be no discussion needed as the word "must" implies a mandatory thing.
     
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