I just wanted to confirm I have some of the hacking rules correct. I was playing as ISS against my best friend's nomads corrigedor. He had Moran (who is a repeater) deployed forward, and I had kan-ren with Holo-echos within his ZoC. It was the kan-ren with the KHD. He had 2 hackers, one of them being Zoe. I attempt to hack (redrum). Do both his hackers get an ARO? We played that they did. As they both had an ARO, and I target Zoe, his other hacker has an unopposed roll. Does the -3 mod for redrum apply? Anyhow, as we played it, kan-ren was immobilised by the ARO. If he then attempts to reset, does that again attract 2 aro's? As we assumed it did, I didn't bother. But I did move my Lu Duan (remote) up to attempt the heavy flame on Moran. At the end of my first short order my friend guesses he is still outside the ZoC, so delays. I then move closer, and he then calls a 'hacking program' ARO (well 2). Can he do so? And accordingly, I can't reset. But if I could, could I use the reset against nothing hacking attacks or only one? Thanks for your patience and guidance.
The Moran is a repeater (South Park alien antenna comes to mind), when KanRen enters 8" from a repeater, every enemy hacker has an ARO to do their stuff. MODs imposed by hacking attacks are applied to the enemy(-ies) in FtF, so if you don't attack the Moran he doesn't suffer MODs. Second part... You can NEVER delay ARO. You have or you do not have an ARO. Exceptions: Sixth Sense L2 (because out of ZoC), White Hacking Device. If the Moran could see the Lu Duan, he uses his ARO or lose it.
Kanren has Martial Arts, which gives stealth, just as a side note. Unless the hackers also had LOF, or the Kanren declares movement while disabling stealth, the hackers don't get an ARO until the Kanren does something that isn't covered by stealth.
I started assuming he was in front of the Moran and then forgot about MA/Stealth... Anyway, as soon as he declares a Hacking (or any other) Attack, every enemy hacker get an ARO
Minor correction to @tox answer: You can delay ARO against a Holoecho state Kanren or a Holocho state Lu Duan (or Camouflage and Hiding markers), but only if you have an ARO to delay. Similar to delaying against a TO Camo Marker, however, if the Kanren or Lu Duan choose to not reveal on second short skill, the ARO opportunity is lost. @Bassie a tactical note; not using Stealth with the Kanren is ideal as it would tell you exactly which models your opponent has ARO with and intends to attack you with. If they do not delay, they lose their ARO or have to declare ARO against what is potentially an Echo. This gives you the opportunity to reconsider and back off if there's way too many... stuff... that gets Hacking Area AROs. Or to change tactics and attempt to stab something instead of hack them (Kanren has a Knife (Silent), if they use Stealth to get close and kill the Moran with it, your enemy Hackers will not gain a Hacking Area ARO).
Moran couldn't see the Lu Duan. But I was within the 8"ZoC at the end of my second (but not first) movement. In this case he could choose to hack ARO, and I could choose not to move, or do we measure after the first move?
Lu Duan Move. Out of LoF, out of ZoC. Enemy ARO step: no one can claim an ARO Lu Duan Move. Out of Lof, within ZoC of an enemy. Enemy ARO stem: that enemy can ARO and he must do it now. Being out of LoF limits the number of ARO at your disposal. Change Facing is the normal one, an Hacker can attempt a program, if the enemy is hackable, Reset should be another viable one...
You played it correctly. You declare first Move. Opponent declares "I don't think I have ARO yet" (NOTE: this is different from delaying the ARO). You perform second Move. They declare ARO. At this point, check distances and: 1) they had ARO after first Move : ARO is nil, as they had a chance but chose not to use it 2) they did not have ARO after first Move but have after second Move : their ARO is valid Lets change a bit: You perform first Move. Opponent declares ZoC ARO. You perform second Move. Distances are checked and it turns out they did not have ZoC to your location after first Move, only after the second Move. Their ARO turns to Idle as they declared it prematurely.
