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What is going on with these ridiculously hard to cut bases?

Discussion in 'Access Guide to the Human Sphere' started by Kazavon, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Kazavon

    Kazavon Uxia McNeill's #1 Fan

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    Ever since the JSA Box I've been getting a few 25mm bases here and there that are just ridiculously hard to pierce with an Exacto. To get a 3mm hole in one of them for a peg can take me 10, 15 minutes applying pressure, scraping and cutting away, whereas normally I can just cut the entire tab out in 30 seconds. They're so hard to cut I've been using my hand drill on them and cutting the bars off the bottom of my miniatures and filing a peg to fit in the hole, because that's easier!

    I figured it was just a production error or something but today I got a pack of 20 25mm bases and EVERY ONE OF THEM was too thick to cut through.

    Is anyone else experiencing this or is it just me? It's making me crazy.
     
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  2. Arkhos94

    Arkhos94 Well-Known Member

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    Same problem here. I'm cutting my base to insert the minis in them and these last few months they became crazy hard to cut
     
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  3. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Yup, I've noticed this recently as well
     
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  4. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    I don't have a link, but I saw a comment from a CB poster after the JSA box came out. They didn't intentionally change anything, that's just how the latest batch from their plastic base manufacturer came.

    I agree that they're super annoying to work with.
     
  5. Savnock

    Savnock Nerfherder

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    Good reason to move to third-party resin or acrylate bases.
     
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  6. Quirk

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    Good to know this was not changed intentionally. I have some spare from the one army I placed on third party bases but the stock is getting smaller with every new release.
     
  7. archon

    archon Well-Known Member

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    Same problem here. Cutting the bases from the JSA Box was very annoying and time intensiv. I even broke a blade from a cutting knife ... hope this will not become a new standard.
     
  8. chromedog

    chromedog Less than significant minion

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    I don't have a problem with the new bases, but I "tab-pin" and therefore don't need to cut the ENTIRE slot out.

    I just drill holes through from the underside and widen them to suit the trimmed tab "pins", then glue into place.

    I haven't used a knife or clippers to cut a slot in a plastic base in decades (bar using the point to widen it, like a reamer)
     
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    Abrilete Well-Known Member

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    I must be the weird guy... I just glue the models to the base after cutting the whole tab from the model.
     
  10. Fyeya

    Fyeya Yakitori over a light flamethrower

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    I normally found that more trouble that cutting a slot for it - these new bases changed that opinion.
     
  11. prophet of doom

    prophet of doom Well-Known Member

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    I am old school and have to cut the bases. Took me far too long lately. I hope this will change again.
     
  12. Wolf

    Wolf https://youtube.com/@StudioWatchwolf

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    Yes, the hardness is weirdly and wildly inconsistent. Too soft to support models and too hard to work with. Are CB properly advised?
     
  13. Section9

    Section9 Well-Known Member

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    So it's not just me, then.

    Yeah, the new bases have been a real pain in the ass, I also broke blades (plural) cutting the slot out. Makes me wonder if the plastics company changed the tooling for their bases to not have a thinned-out slot.

    Or try to convince CB to make some resin bases...
     
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  14. Wolf

    Wolf https://youtube.com/@StudioWatchwolf

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    ... or get them wealthy enough to afford to make plastic models?
     
  15. Lareon

    Lareon Well-Known well-knower

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    Noticed this as well with JSA box. After half an hour and a broken cutter it convinced me to buy third party bases
     
  16. Mob of Blondes

    Mob of Blondes Well-Known Member

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    Has the shape changed? Or just the plastic? Maybe they are injecting a different polymer.
     
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    toadchild Premeasure

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    Exact same shape, except maybe they're a little thicker. It looks like it's just some variance in the casting process.
     
  18. Red Harvest

    Red Harvest Day in, Day out. Day in, Day out. Day in, DAY OUT

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    Hunh? So no one knows how to use a Dremel?

    If you do not own one, buy one. A nice jeweler's saw too. A chisel blade for your Exacto. A pin vise a a decent collection of bits. The hobby requires tools. Get the correct ones.

    This is the best advice I've given on this forum, BTW.

    I'd like to see bases that are not slanted on the side. The current ones are impossible to pick up.
     
  19. toadchild

    toadchild Premeasure

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    I find straight edged bases much less aesthetically pleasing than slanted or rounded ones. It's one of the main reasons I don't like laser cut ones.
     
  20. Red Harvest

    Red Harvest Day in, Day out. Day in, Day out. Day in, DAY OUT

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    Wait a few years until you get a touch of arthritis. Then you'll hate the current base style. The rounded ones are very pretty too, but impossible for me to pick up. I hate picking up minis by the mini. Not good for the paint. Plus with all the delicate bits on some of these minis... I've seen people invert the slant side bases and put a top on it. That looks interesting, and is easy to pick up. Plus, no need to cut a slot in the base :) I've done it with counters.
     
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