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List Critiques for ITS tourney

Discussion in 'Nomads' started by Tom McTrouble, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. Tom McTrouble

    Tom McTrouble Well-Known Member

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    Have an ITS event this weekend where the missions are Safe Area, Supplies, and Hunting Party. The lists I am thinking of using are the following:

    [​IMG] Safe Area/Supplies
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] ZOE & PI-WELL . (0 | 47)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] ZOE (Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Stop!) Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 28)
    [​IMG] [​IMG] PI-WELL Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 19)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER HMG, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 42)
    [​IMG] MORAN (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] MORAN (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
    [​IMG] ZERO Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]5 [​IMG]2 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] SALYUT (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Assault Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3)
    4 SWC | 300 Points
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    [​IMG] Hunting Party
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]9
    [​IMG] KRIZA BORAC HMG / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] INTRUDER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 35)
    [​IMG] MORAN Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 21)
    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] SPEKTR Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 36)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
    4 SWC | 299 Points
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    I am a little bit unsure on the hunting party list, as it lacks the usual mid-field turn 1 defense that I've become spoiled by in Nomads. If ya'll have critiques, would love the hear them.
     
  2. Recruit-3D

    Recruit-3D Active Member

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    Why did you choose the Kriza Borac? For his price you could get 2 Wildcats, which get a free Adhesive Launcher or even better 2 additional prowlers whicht get a Burst 2 ADHL.
    These troops are also immune against hacking isolation.
    If you choose to go hacking in this mission you should support yourself against the hacking onlaught of the enemy. Either 2 Interventors or at least 1-2 Killer Hackers. otherwise your specialist hacker is an easy target.

    Good choice on the Tomcat Engineer. Do not forget to drop him at least in your last turn. Otherwise it will be hunted down.
    Also good choice on the LT Intruder. Deploy him on a roof for maximum safety.

    Also recommended Zero´s with E-Mauler. Mines which cause isolation.
     
  3. WiseKensai

    WiseKensai Rogue Interventor
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    I like the Kriza for this mission a lot. Burst 2 ADHL and -3 to shoot back is pretty awesome. I lost my last game of Hunting Party due to a well-supported Kriza being hammered up my flank under the cover of smoke.

    Taskmaster Lt is also good for this mission especially with a Tomcat Engineer ready to fix him.
     
  4. Tom McTrouble

    Tom McTrouble Well-Known Member

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    The taskmaster is an interesting pick in that mission for me. I'm already really uncomfortable rocking only 13 regular orders (even less initially cause of AD) and adding the taskmaster just makes that issue worse.
     
  5. natetehaggresar

    natetehaggresar Senior Backlogged Painter Manager

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    Everyone has their own comfort with list sizes. But that is a you thing, not a list competitiveness thing.

    I typically run 10 or 11 regular orders with some Morlock chaff to deter/speed bump early game Rambo's and I do pretty well for myself.

    I agree the intruder LT is the safe option in this mission, but koalas etc are a good deterrent, and the swast is more capable of doing things at range. But both are good options.
     
  6. WiseKensai

    WiseKensai Rogue Interventor
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    Playing 10 order lists has really improved my game. It forces you to think carefully before every order and make sure that you're 1) correctly prioritizing what it is you need to do and 2) doing whatever it is the most efficient way possible.

    But as Nate said, it's really what works for you as a player. If you haven't tried it though, I recommend playing the next 2-3 games after the tournament's over at 10 orders, just to get a feel for things. You might surprise yourself.
     
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  7. Tom McTrouble

    Tom McTrouble Well-Known Member

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    I think once Tunguska comes out I'm going to give that a try. I've run 10 order lists before as Aleph and had some success. I could definitely see it making you a better player if you played it a lot.
     
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  8. Tristan228

    Tristan228 Bakunin's best Morlock trainer
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    Your Safe Area/Supplies list would really profit from the Taskmaster (more than your HP list). Two more Koalas to keep your obtained Supply Boxes safe and a roughly 50 pointd heavy chunk roaming the quadrants.
    Also with an Interventor (10 points discount, still marker state possible) in your Hunting Party list you could play another ADHL Prowler instead of the Spektr or a BSG Prowler who becomes quite a toolbox with that free ADHL and then use the Hellcat with ADHL for that extra burst. The Kriza is totally fine thanks to Full Auto. Alsp I'd not worry too much about hackers since they're specialists they'll propably be kept somewhere safe which means you can avoid them without being hindered too much.

    [​IMG] Jawn 2
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    GROUP 1[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]10
    [​IMG] HELLCAT Combi Rifle, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 23)
    [​IMG] INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] KRIZA BORAC HMG / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (2 | 54)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0 | 32)
    [​IMG] MORAN Combi Rifle, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)
    [​IMG] TRANSDUCTOR ZOND Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8)

    GROUP 2[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]4 [​IMG]1 [​IMG]1
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 10)
    [​IMG] JAGUAR Adhesive Launcher, Panzerfaust / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 13)
    [​IMG] MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (0 | 6)
    [​IMG] REAKTION ZOND HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 26)
    [​IMG] TOMCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)

    5 SWC | 300 Points

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  9. Tom McTrouble

    Tom McTrouble Well-Known Member

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    So originally playing this mission i did have an interventor instead of an intruder lt, and I think it's got pluses and minuses running the list either way. The biggest issue with having the interventor as opposed to the spektr (I find) is that since the interventor doesn't want to get glued, it stays in the back all game. That usually played out in him not being able to take objectives midfield or potentially do any data scan classifieds, which usually comes out to be the difference between major and minor victories in my experience with that mission.

    The taskmaster is an interesting idea, I hadn't thought of that for the other list. I might play around with trying to fit one in, I just don't know if I want to pay that much for a taskmaster when a lunokhod could do some of the same functions? Lunokhod does lose out on being a chunk of points for quadrants though hmmm.....
     
  10. wellspokenman

    wellspokenman Retired Intruder

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    Since you have the SWC, I would consider the ADHL Intruder for Smoke/B2 Glue shenanigans. I'd also consider the Kriza Multi Rifle, which has the option of B2 Glue or B2 Stun with the Multi.
     
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