The last mission?

I think they do it expecting a relaunch in 2019/2020 (after every faction get a new sectorial) with the wave of sectorial that will include the khanate, white banner, the black hand...

I expect some minis to be released next year (like the new chasseur) with maybe a CBL.

Also, CB doing this seems more honest from a client point of view than what they usually do (minis still available untill a day before resculpt resulting in player buying the old sculpt just before the new one is released).

Regarding the profiles, the new fireteams looks very good : being able to put 2 metro in a moblot fireteam create a cheap efficent FT (moblot HMG/sapper + 2 moblot + 2 metro) and the new harris looks good (briscard in a defensive harris for example). Add the new HMG annaconda and the AVA 4 chasseurs to that and you get a cheap yet dangerous army.

Some example :
Force de Réponse Rapide Merovingienne
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GROUP 1 10
MOBLOT (Sapper) HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 31)
MOBLOT Paramedic (MediKit) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
MOBLOT Engineer Rifle, Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
MÉTRO Lieutenant Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
MÉTRO Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 8)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
KNAUF MULTI Sniper / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32)
MÉTRO Paramedic (Medikit) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
MÉTRO Paramedic (Medikit) Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)

GROUP 2 5
BRISCARD Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 23)
BRISCARD (Fireteam: Haris) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
BRISCARD (Forward Observer) Marksman Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
CHASSEUR (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)

6 SWC | 300 Points

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Can't wait to have it relaunched.

 

While I understand that they "totally freeze" the faction that seems to not had been selling well (kinda hard to not look at CB and ask about those little rules they "forgot" to update when everybody got Haris and duos...), the way it has been worded leaves open the chopping block for anything they feel like without much warning... which makes people nervous. Tohaa is a faction that has spend seven months without a single release (aside from a repack 6 months ago), Qapu is a faction that seems to have tons of old sculpted boxes (starter, odalisques...) and the chasseur that seems to be going to be at shops in 2-3 months might suggest stragglers being shifted to other sectorials (so Janissaries and Az'Rails could end up in the Khanate or RTS, for example).

As usual, the news are somehow definite and somehow not as much as it looks like.

So not really happy (nor un-happy... just sad), while I understand to an extent the business decision.

 

I'm not really expecting them back, not for the foreseeable future at any rate, since chasseurs are getting a re-release we'll have to see whether they are migrating into any of the other sectorials or just going to sit in vanilla as one of the few used MRRF units.

While it does make me rather skittish over the future of a certain other sectoral which hasn't been redeveloped yet with a heavy camo lean I'm pretty sure the rest are here to stay, Tohaa haven't had any releases for a while but they aren't going to be sent away any time soon.

I'm not angry MRRF are going to suffer death by starvation but I am somewhat disappointed, at least they got an updated fireteam list before the end to bring them a bit more to par. And I can't really help but feel that CB have created rather a self fulfilling prophecy here where they don't support something, it therefore loses players and interest as it's not up to par with the rest of the game and therefore they see it as not doing well and cut it.
Frankly I think CB are reading a little too heavily into their ITS and sales data as I found with JSA, the models for the rest of YJ were far and away outstanding, but as JSA were in desperate need of a resculpt it kept me playing chinese and made me avoid adding JSA to generic, another little self perpetuating cycle.

 

I have loved and played FRRM since the beginning. I expected them to be rebuilt considering they were on hold for such a long time. Now they are dropped and basically said they won't come back unless hell freezes over. And you can't blame sales on this because thats what happens when you don't update the sectoral for nearly 5 years. People point out that you its nice they updated the Moblots and Metros so they can form a fire team... the only reason they did this was because they never released enough models to make a full moblot team anyway....... I'm not mad exactly... I just feel like from the point that I got into infinity I have been excited for the French and now, years later, I get nothing.

I feel led on and teased. From now on I am going to be waaay more hesitant to buy additional CB products. I either have to stick to the poster children of the game, or be prepared that anything I buy in the future might be dropped. I guess thats true of anything like this, but now its a real threat because it already happened once...

...and Yu Jing feels like they got snubbed....

 

Honestly, this is more attention than I expected MRRF to get in the next couple of years. Getting an update with Haris/Mixed Fireteams, plus the much-needed Chasseur model, is actually a great sendoff. If they did this with all my other favorite Sectorials (revitalize their fireteam options, give them a critical miniature release) before "retiring" them, I wouldn't mind at all. I own the minis already, the rules will remain valid... No losses there.

It isn't a big hit to new players either, since I don't think MRRF has been selling well, and none of their miniature purchases are invalidated (hell, they just got better, plus there's the guarantee that your collection will remain current for the next 2-3 years and won't be replaced.)

Obviously we'd love to see MRRF remain supported and current, but if someone has to get the axe, I'm pretty happy with how this is being done.

 

You haven't been "led on" don't be silly. There's been no news on MRRF at all since 3rd edition started, at most they've been cold-shouldering you, if we're going with relationship analogies. And the sectorial is now more playable than it's ever been. There's just not going to be any new models, which is exactly the same state you were in prior to this announcement, just now you know for sure.

 

We've known that FRRM has been on hold since before HSN3, we knew they weren't going to be in the Project Formerly Known as Acheron Fall (though the Shasvaasti will be).

The Fireteam changes are actually quite a surprise IMO, they're not massive but help modernise the faction a little, I think that since the JSA debacle they're being more open. I notice this article was by their new marketing person rather than Gutier or Bostria.

This hurts (FRRM were my second faction, I bought the starter on release) but it's like stubbing my toe on a forgotten piggy bank rather than a severed leg.

 

Definitely, I'm actually more inclined to play my MRRF now. Compare that to just as recently as last month, where my internal dialog sounded like:

"There's my MRRF on my shelf. Would it be fun to Mirage-5 some people at the LGS tonight? No not really, that's not really fun for them. I guess I could bring a Loup-Garou Core, but they'd really just get annihilated by the shitstorm of Kriza Boracs/StarCo links/Achilles I'll probably see... Sigh, I'll just bring Briscards to be safe, they're not super fun but they're really versatile... But that Kriza Borac will still eat them alive too... Guess I'll just play my JSA instead."

Now I can run Haris teams for those cool elite infantry options that feel just a bit too clunky as a full Core, or field Moblots without the waking nightmare of collecting 5 of them.

Also... How are people not raving about the fact that we FINALLY have a stand-alone minelayer Chasseur release?

 

Though I'm not a Merovingian player this news does leave me with a few questions. I'm something of a dilettante when it comes to Infinity & definitely a collector, so when an announcement regarding models being discontinued is made I tend to take notice.

I haven't been much of a fan of the models for FRRM in general. Most seem to me to be rather.......dated now & there are some design decisions I'm not all that keen on in terms of their look. That said, though playing the sectorial hasn't really been on my to do list, I have been considering vanilla Ariadna for some time.

Are there models in the current MRRF range that fit well into vanilla in general? Aside of course from the Chasseur (btw, new sculpt? Is that confirmed & are we talking individual or a box?) Looking at the profiles nothing much catches my eye. The Loup Garrou have unusual weaponry of course, but I really do not like the sculpts.

 

New Chasseur was confirmed by Bostria as the Ariadna vanilla starter is due to be replaced

Mirage-5 are amazing in game, but also staying in production so no rush there.

Para Commando FO and HMG are solid workhorses being cheap and having BS12, mimetism, and WIP15, I also love the rifle sculpt as it had an excellent sense of motion and dynamism despite the comparative lack of detail compared to modern minis.

The sculpts are dated, they all predate the use of CAD for infantry models, they were amazing at time of release but technology had allowed CB to further push their skills.

 

CB is being honest and open with this as far as I can tell, so I don't have any major complaints. It sucks but what are you gonna do.

Might buy a big round of MRRF to back up my Americans before they leave production.

 

If you're not into them currently, I wouldn't try jumping into them now, especially if you don't like the models. I do plan to pick up the models I don't have (apart from M5, I'll just proxy those) though. It's sad that they will be stalling out, but I love the new update. All the added Mercs throw in some crazy flexibility, but I'm surprised none of the Merc units have any fire teams available, or helper bots. Overall, I think CB has taken a decent path with this.

EDIT: So on mobile it showed them having access to all the Merc profiles, but now that I'm checking on it on a desktop, it doesn't show them. It must have been a bug, and this saddens me.

 

MRRF stuff in Vanilla:

• Chasseurs are certainly the staple. They're as iconic a Vanilla choice as anything, right up there with Spetsnaz and Antipodes as one of the things that makes Vanilla Ariadna a terror to face.
• Mirage-5. There's nothing in the game like them.
• As mentioned, Para-Commandos are pretty sweet from an AD perspective. If you're not going for the unique applications of Mirage-5 or Van Zant, then the Para-Commando is probably what you're reaching for. It's cheaper than the Spetsnaz and can be a specialist, it has that useful Mimetism (unlike Airborne Rangers), and has a good array of profiles. Nice Vanilla tool here.
• I see the Briscard HRL pop up as a fire support piece for Vanilla. Not nearly in the same category as some of Vanilla's gunfighting stars, but offers a nice cheap template that's a big faster than the Marauder's 4-2.
• Zouave are nice source of E/M, and a fair bit cheaper than Scouts. I've seen them for missions where you absolutely, positively want to stop a HI or TAG from reaching an area of the field (Rescue, Looting & Sabotage, Capture & Protect, Deadly Dance.)
• Bruant is a fine Camo LT choice for Ariadna, up there with the Tank Hunter LT if you're playing a mission where you want your LT choice is Open Information and you want to avoid getting mauled.
• A lone Briscard FO is a really good self-contained unit, able to fulfill a ton of roles at a variety of ranges. It's understandably overshadowed by units like Foxtrots or the Vet Kazak, who are really good lone Specialists as well, and bring some pretty dominant tools to the table. But that doesn't make the Briscard bad in Vanilla.

 

If you turn on Mercs option it stays, but it doesn't carry over between platforms. You probably just have it checked on Mobile.

 

I think barring Chasseur Minelayers a lot of the MRRF pieces just suffer from competition.

Bruant as an LT could just as easily be a Tankhunter, or even a Scout for 0 SWC.

Mirage team costs 2 SWC when you could just take any other AD troop and a Cameronian for cheaper (however air dropping dogs and Margot are quite a thing, don't get me wrong).

It's not that any of the units are bad, they just have to compete for limited space against other units that often do the same thing for cheaper, or other units that are stronger for a minimal price increase.

 

They're also keeping Mirage-5 in production so they clearly think they're unique enough in vanilla to stick around

Or it could be because they've got them painted 2 stories high on the outside of their HQ.

 

Mirage-5 are one of the Infinity minis that need a resculpt the most tho