Fair enough. My only other response would be to cite the following rule quotation: Seems odd to me that the Enhanced Reaction Supportware wouldn't be considered a "bonus" if they call out Hacking Programs specifically. Though I suppose final ruling on what constitutes a 'bonus' is what you're looking for after all.
whats your burst normally? And is your burst not modified when its "set to B2"..... hint, It is. Your burst has been modifieds, Mods are not linked solely to set integers, they can be a mod that sets it to a specific number, see guided
Guided does not set to a specific number, it grants +6 when fired in guided mode. So typically 18 on most factions, 16 on Ariadna's Traktor Muls. If that was the case then Possessed TAGs' adjustments would be MODs, and we know they're not.
and what does guided say about your burst.....? Ill wait.. EDIT: Ok I lied, wont wait When using the Guided Trait, the weapon's B is always 1, ignoring all possible bonuses and Modifiers Hey look at that, calls out mods.
I don't quite see how that's relevant to my discussion. You can't fire in guided mode during the reactive turn, when Enhanced Reaction is active.
Please don't ad hominem, it makes for a bad forum experience for everyone. You also suggested that, in context of burst, "Guided does not set to a specific number".
I meant in terms of what the to-hit roll was. @daboarder was being cryptic or obfuscatory so I made my best guess as to what he was getting at.
The main problem is, they use bonus and modes + rules which "set things without saying mod or bonus" considering it bonuses. If i search for Bonus(es) it links the fireteam bonuses and to the MODs page. Just like victory points which considered army points nowadays and use it vica versa.
I think his point was more that mods are +1/3/6 etc rather than "granting" a set number. IE the base burst changes to 2, rather than its gets +1, so it isn't a bonus. I don't think that's necessarily the way the rules intended, the logic works up to a point, but once you try to say that 2 isn't the same as 1+1 you get into weird philosophical math...
And setting a value rather than adding it subtracting is valid reasoning. I'd still arguing that it is modifying though. Either way arguing rules to infinitesimal standards with ideas like this just seems plain argumentative to me.
So when a TAG is possessed, is the new BS stat it has after being hit with the hacking program a MOD? Do you take it into account when figuring out if you're up against the -12 max penalty? The answer is no, and so anything that sets a value to a new value instead of adding or subtracting cannot be considered a MOD. Arguing about this is pretty important, as it basically determines whether you can use Enhanced Reaction on fireteam REMS to gain B3 AROs.
Possessed isn't a MOD. Its a whole new profile. When the Possessed trooper is activated by the player who induced the possession, he must use the Possessed Trooperprofile instead of his own.
