Well, Vanilla Haqqislam had some major changes. It will take some time to adapt. Major immediate ones: Duos are much more restrictive. Much increased availability to Viral Mines AVA 1Barid AVA 2 Al'hawwa AVA 2 Tuaregs with significant changes. It also looks like only some Pistols have a CC mode (like Cobra Pistols). Things will be quite different. And CB continues to refuse to give our basic engineer a Deactivator . @Koni, I am starting to take this personally
Azra'il kept BS attack(continuos damage) and gained a chain rifle and BS attack(SR-1). She is still a monster.
At least hafza has chain of command in one profile(one command hability). Leila has improved his hacking. Korsan has profile with foward deployment and parachutism (deployment zone). Najjarun now can have turrent or cover. Ragiks Lost fusil+shotgun profiles. All zhayedan profiles has CD(shock). Tuaregs go to medic school with jannis, and now has doc(2h) instead of (+3). Cheers.
All Smoke Grenades no longer have a +3 range Viral weapons are not DA against STR units and are less SWC. Lasiqs gained Marksmanship. Korsans continue to be confusing. Khawarij are still glass hammers and Muktars went down in price. Saladin is ridiculous with Albedo, Counter Intelligence, Emitter, and Triangled Fire. Note that Triangled fire no longer causes a -3; uses base BS. Fiday are cheaper, but Biovisors discover them directly (Skipping IMP-2) and IMP-1 only creates a -3 to discover penalty. Djanbazan gained Warhorse and got 3 points cheaper. Shakush HMG gained Continuous Damage!!!! Farzan minelayer cheaper but now cost SWC (End of an Era). CoC profile is now cheap. Zaybak Flyer is for hunting MSV units. Has Albedo and 3 structure with escape system (so really 2 structure). Hunzacut gained boarding Pistols (chain colt with a direct fire mode. Shihab has a cheap no SWC option with Thunderbolt (+1 Burst). EDIT: Huge change:.Shotgun may no longer have any templates. This is a first for Infinity as they have always had a template option.
Oh hell yeah! Lasiqs with marksmanship?! Gimme! Gonna have to dust off my djanbazan too and my Saladin is rubbing his hands with glee. What a nice early Xmas present…
That's indeed just great. And they can make nice defensive Duos with also Muyibs and Govads. Love it.
They can? Dammit, I’m missing out. The app is being weird for me. I can’t see any of this. I’m going to delete it and download it again. Need to see this in person. My Haqqi are going to be so pleased.
Note that is only for HB. In Vanilla, the Duos and fireteams are much worse than before, IMO. The Shujae in HB also vastly improved with minelayer 2 profiles and access to a viral rifle. A nice surprise is the 14 point Bashi Bazouks with an AP T2 rifle. The Najjarun might be worth it for the Deployable cover option. Deployable cover gives +6 to the Saving Roll (ARM +Deployable cover max of 12 due to the rule). This allows TAGs to even fight AP weapons. A Shakush Continuous Damage HMG in Deployable Cover might be a decent option.
Woops, that's the Vanilla Haqq topic, I was talking about Hassassins, my bad and sorry for the false joy...
I think we are in the same spot when N4 started. Haqqislam being "worse" because many rules impacted they play style, but in fact it was really really good. Now, once more, changes, but still good. I will see on the table the day after tomorrow. Ramah... let´s see
Any updates on people's experiences with vHaqqislam in N5? List building has been difficult for me and it feels like we lost some of our best Duos. Has anyone been able to make a Haris work?
I like the Janissary HMG accompanied by a Sekban doctor with boarding shotgun, and a Sekban specialist with ap rifle. The Sekbans meet the requirement bonus to allow the Janissary to utilize the +1 special die. Combined with the Janissary’s -3 bs, really makes him a powerful offensive tool. The doctor can help revive the Janissary if he goes unconscious, complete objects, and provide 8” support with his boarding shotgun. The specialist Sekban covers the 8-16” range with his ap rifle and can push buttons. All for 85 points. I agree, our duos are in rough shape.
Well, some of my vainilla list had being really hard impacted, no Namur or Aldjabel anymore, but others had done the N4 to N5 transition really well. Old N4 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── lista.grupo 1 1 4 2 ZULEYKA Light Flamethrower(+1B), Smoke Grenades, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Breaker Pistol(+2B), EXP CC Weapon(PS=7). (0 | 12) GHULAM (NCO) Rifle, Grenade Launcher, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1 | 15) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) lista.grupo 2 10 GHULAM (Lieutenant [+1 Command Token]) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 14) LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mine, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) ZHAYEDAN Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31) DJANBAZAN Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31) AZRA'IL AP Heavy Machine Gun, Chain Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 37) FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mine, D-Charges / Silenced Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) HAWWA' (Hacker, Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Cybermine ( ) / Silenced Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24) FIDAY Rifle, Light Shotgun, Shock Mine, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 26) 6 filtros.CAP | 285 filtros.puntos SYS.abrirArmy it became ────────────────────────────────────────────────── lista.grupo 1 5 2 ZULEYKA Light Flamethrower(+1B), Smoke Grenades, Smoke Grenade Launcher / Breaker Pistol(+2B), EXP CC Weapon(PS=7). (0 | 12) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) DAYLAMI (Camouflage [1 Use], Infiltration) Light Shotgun, Panzerfaust / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 8) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 5) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) lista.grupo 2 10 GHULAM (Lieutenant [+1 Command Token]) Rifle, Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) GHULAM (Doctor [+3]) Rifle, Light Shotgun ( | MediKit) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 15) BARID (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device [UPGRADE: Trinity (-3)]) Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 14) LEILA SHARIF (Hacker) Shock Marksman Rifle, E/M Mine, D-Charges / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) ZHAYEDAN Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31) DJANBAZAN Heavy Machine Gun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 31) AZRA'IL AP Heavy Machine Gun, Chain Rifle / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 37) FARZAN (Forward Observer) Rifle, Light Shotgun, Flash Pulse, Shock Mine, D-Charges / Silenced Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) HAWWA' (Hacker, Killer Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Cybermine ( ) / Silenced Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 22) ZAYBAK Spitfire, Smoke Grenade Launcher / . (1.5 | 37) ZAYBAK OPERATOR Spitfire / Boarding Pistol, CC Weapon. (- | 37) NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) NASMAT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) 6 filtros.CAP | 300 filtros.puntos SYS.abrirArmy Truly, I didn't pay too much attention to duo in N4, neither to haris in N5, for haqqisslam duos and haris can be a boost for some list, but they aren't mandatory.
