Hiya all. So, the question is mainly for Interplanetario, but for LI lists in general. I feel that Druze lack a redundancy or staying power that is needed for a LI event. Sure, a Druze link can put out serious firepower, but they're fragile and with only 10 spaces available, I think it would be tough to put together something with the redundancy, threat and mobility needed for a LI event. Any ideas?
Check out my LI baddies list in mixing it up with DBS. I’ve wracked up a few wins with that and small variations of it. Doesn’t perform as well as I’d like, but two TAGs do a great job of keeping your opponent busy.
I'd use something like this. Lotsa fire power in an ity bitty package. Druze Bayram Security ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 ANACONDA HMG + Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / CCW. (2 | 64) OPERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (- | 0) ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) CLIPPER DRONBOT Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) 6 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army
Coincidentally I was having at a Limited Insertion list yesterday as well: Druze Bayram Security ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER undefined. (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) ARMAND Minelayer MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 42) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I am not sure about the Nasmat, they are simply their as an option to clear Mines or repair Scarface later. Le Muet because he is a though ARO piece and a good Data Tracker and Regular. Saito could fill his place but since he cuts the order pool a bit more I decide against him here, but he would add another good Specialist. No KHD ist a drag, but that's why it's limited. The EM LGL could become a KHD which would free up the SWC to get the Spitfire Peacemaker though.
You have to make some sacrifices and cannot cover all of the strengths of DBS, but I like LI Druze. Edit: Actually screw that list I had up before, i like this variation better. Rockstars ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) ARMAND Minelayer MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 42) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
As far as I can tell 400pts Limited Insertion is impossible for DBS though and only just doable if Soldiers of Fortune are allowed.
Yeah, no one is going to host a 400-point Limited Insertion event unless it's a joke (or agreed upon with most attendees beforehand... i.e. everyone wants to play two TAGs.
I really, really like this list. It's got everything but a doc in there (I'd be tempted to put a Paramedic in the Druze link at least, or change the Hunzakut up for one). Otherwise though, super solid.
To me the Brawler doc could be worth it in LI, where I do not often pick it for my normal ITS lists. It's just an odd point unit to fit into context of that LI list. EDIT: and yeah, i often run without one specialist type, sometimes I pay for it by drawing doubly bad cards. I kinda like DBS in LI, I really do. There is a lot of variation with the Druze, Merc characters, and brawlers that change the list significantly in that format. I'm not sure I would run single combat group DBS outside of a LI format, but I like them in it. Here are some lists that could be a second list to that one. Give up Saito specialist to get Arslan and a Doctor for more durability overall. Rockstars ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) ARMAND (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 45) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Or max out the doctor's coverage... Rockstars ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) ARMAND Minelayer MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 42) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) 5.5 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
After having a look at your guys lists, I was thinking something like this: Limited Insertion ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER undefined. (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) BASHI BAZOUK (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 17) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk
We hosted a tournament to finish out Season 9 this weekend for our local group. Turns out it was Season 10 on the rankings, but whatever, CB can't seem to get the change of seasons timed perfectly with the ITS releases. My local group is in South West Florida and the event drew several players that traveled from Miami and Tampa to play. We ended up with 13 players, and I didn't want anyone who had traveled to face a bye round, so I played in the event. The event was a Limited insertion event, and I basically had only one list saved for LI in army, so I printed it and ran it all day. It's the list I did above, but I will put it here too. Rockstars ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) ARMAND Minelayer MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 42) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army I have said before that I don't think Druze is half bad in the Li format, at least not as bad as it appears to be on paper. It was a fun time discovering that I do like them in that format as much as I was theorizing. The strengths change, the churn of refreshing the core generally goes away, and the ARO game is probably weaker, but you get a lot of nice utility and fit in several of the tougher units. I made the scenario lineup one I hoped would challenge our players: Comms Center, Supplies, and then Frontline. Comms center especially was a tough one with LI. I got a few curses about it. Good, that's what TOs are for. :) My first game was versus an Achillies + Post Humans list in Comms Center. My opponent stuck two hidden deployment infiltration rolls in the 4" band next to my DZ, a proxy MKII sniper and a Daysu AHD. The only reason I didn't get rolled by his luck was I had a bit of my own. The MSV Brawler made an ARM roll on a 20 and I got a few lucky crits in ARO on his first active turn, wounding achilles and dropping an Assisted fire Dakini. Scarface took out Achilles as the Data tracker, I killed more specialists and we tied on antennas. 7 to 2 Major victory. Second game was Supplies versus ISS with Sun Tze multi rifle, a dual missile launcher harris, sophetect, Avicenna with ABH buddy, and a garuda with spitfire. Started active again and took two boxes with Saito and a Hunz. Used smoke to engage the Missile launchers individually with the Sniper and lucked out when the Garuda couldn't pin down a dodging Armand over four activation. In the end I lost most of the fireteam keeping Sun Tze away from the crates and scored a 8-0 major on it. Third game I was top table with a Tohaa player from Miami who's pretty solid. We usually only minor or tie on one another, with the occasional run away game. We both laughed about not wanting to play each other. His list had three triads and a clipsos. Neema, Sukeul K1, and BSG Makaul. Gao Rael Sniper, Sukeul Missile Launcher, and Kaeltar. Third triad was Sukeul K1 and HMG, BSG Makaul. I started active again and smoked near Scarface to avoid the Missile launcher, then advanced taking out the entire SWC triad in uncomfotably close range bands for them, and then backed off Scarface an put him in supressive fire with both him and Armand (from a high building behind Scarface) overwatching the only two corners that the other triads could come from. It was a strong position and I destroyed the second traid as it attempted to take out Scarface, who barely tanked it. Eventually though the Clipsos and Neema took out Scarface and crit Armand twice in separate activations on different turns. I made one crucial mistake in forgetting to either reform a three man fireteam or coordinating suppression fire with my remaining Druze, and Neema with the last Sukeul K1 took out all of my Druze Shock Troops, and claimed the center zone. I made a few play mistakes in that last round, but my opponent pulled a sure win for me out of the jaws of defeat and got a minor victory, though we both dragged each other from top table to 4th and 5th place respectively. I was pretty happy with how the Druze performed in LI, though I would probably change that list up a bit. I really missed MSV-1 on Armand as it seemed like everything i was shooting all day had mimetism. I don't like 10 order DBS lists outside of the LI format, but in it they have a group of moderately tough units that can't individually out compete the toughest units they will face, but there aren't any dedicated cheerleaders. Everything in your list is potent enough to get the job done. If I could alter the list with hindsight, I think I would have played something like this (although it's still a toss up between snipers, I probably would take the MSV-2 brawler over the Druze in most cases and not care about leftover points). Rockstars ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 9 1 SCARFACE & CORDELIA TURNER . (1.5 | 74) SCARFACE 2 Mk12, Heavy Rocket Launcher / AP CCW. (1.5 | 57) SCARFACE Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. () CORDELIA TURNER Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) ARMAND (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 45) VALERYA GROMOZ Hacker (Hacking Device UPGRADE: Expel) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
With the season 10 changes to Medium infantry, I present the epitome of deployment shenanigans for 10 order DBS. Druze Bayram Security ────────────────────────────────────────────────── 8 2 DRUZE (CH: Mimetism) MULTI Sniper / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) ARSLAN Lieutenant MULTI Rifle, Light Shotgun / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 36) SAITO TOGAN (Specialist Operative) Combi Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, EXP CCW, Knife. (0 | 40) PEACEMAKER Heavy Shotgun + AUXBOT_3 / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) AUXBOT_3 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (- | 4) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) ARMAND (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 45) 5 SWC | 291 Points Open in Infinity Army
Druze definitely got a boost this ITS season! All the Druze up the board!! I've always liked all Druze links anyway...