? Designed for Infinity terrain is almost universally 2.5-3" per storey, making them Climbable in a single Order no matter how you play the rule.
Sorry, I though this had been covered, but apparently not. The diagrams are inconsistent, one way or another. If you have to measure the horizontal movement of the base, then the first diagram is wrong because because it doesn't include moving onto the ground at the end. If the base width is 'free' then the second diagram is wrong because the middle Order (on top of the square object) would only be 1" instead of the 2" that's labelled.
Not if the label is labelling the length of the dimensions of the terrain being climbed upon, rather than the lengths of the moves. Then the second diagram is correct to the first, which indicates you get a base width 'free' horizontal movement when climbing reaches the top / bottom of a piece of terrain. In fact this must be true because the terrain item in the second diagram has equal length sides (or close to it), and the move on top of it could never be 2" in any case if that is true.
Which would be fine if the diagrams showed dimensions of the objects, but they have arrows denoting how far the trooper moved. :-(
There's no indication that's what the shaped end of the arrow means. It could just as easily indicate the width of the object the trooper moved across, with the arrow indicating the direction of movement. In fact the latter is more likely, because it makes the diagram not fundamentally wrong. If there's two interpretations of a rules diagram, one which makes it in consistent and wrong, and one which makes it consistent and not wrong, the only sensible interpretation is the latter.
That's not how you mark dimensions, but even if it was, that then removes the entire basis for 'free' base width movement because that's based on the arrows showing the distance travelled.
I googled "dimension markings", this is an image result : And the other diagram demonstrates the "free" base size horizontal movement at the end of a climb (there's no way that model can climb those dimensions far or even in that manner in an order without it).
And all the other ones in the search, that have standard double-ended arrows, or T-bars at each end? What MOV value is being used in the diagram?
According to the Climb rules, a model can't even pay for (or voluntarily perform) the horizontal movement that needs to take place to put the model in a legal position. So the horizontal change has to be free.
ASME Y.14.40 is the standard for dimensioning of drawings. Neither the book nor the image above adhere to this standard so we can aptly say that there is no way to know what the arrows in the book mean. They are at best a qualitative expression of the intended dimension, nothing more, nothing less. We could make some argument that they are a non-dimensionalized expression of the mathematical function that dictates the ratio of climbed distance to available movement, but for it to be useful we would need the function. No function, no meaningful dimensions, not adherent to any diagramming standard = we need a clarification.
This has been covered multiple times. Taken literally, you don't stop measuring the movement of the model, but stop moving the model.
If you are talking about this picture Then we do not know the width of the building, just how many orders used and how far the model walks. You state that my interpretation says it should be 1" for the walk. But if the actual width of the building was 2" + base size then the diagrams are both correct from the 1 interpretation of transit of horizontal-vertical costs no extra movement and you must stop when going horizontal if the landing is larger than the base size.
Yes I mean that one, but if it's 2" plus base width square, the vertical movement would be 2" plus base width, not 2".
Correct. If transit to horizontal/vertical was free, all of the sides would be 2"+base size making it still look the square. It also fits well with the explicit example we are given as the other pic as well.
In which case, why would there be arrows saying 2" for the vertical edges, when the trooper is moving vertically 2" plus base width, and then another base width horizontally? You can't have it both ways. :-(
The transit to horizontal or vertical is free in my understanding. So yes effectively the model would "move" 2"+2*base size. Its the only way that allow both example to be correct. Your interpretation would make either of those two pictures be incorrect. For example if the transit was not free then in example 1 the model moved 2*basesize extra. And example two doesnt properly show the model moving the extra base size when placing itself back in ground floor in your interpretation.
Nobody has been saying this, just that moving onto the horizontal surface at the end is free. You definitely have to measure all of the vertical movement.
