Duroc and Margot

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  1. PoisonIvy

    PoisonIvy New Member

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    Hi guys, just a simply question, what means that Duroc and Margot must be fielded together? This means in the same turn or in the same section of the table or at the same time? thanks to everyone for the answer
     
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    dlfleetw Well-Known Member

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    They have to be purchased together.

    No other restrictions or requirements.

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  3. PoisonIvy

    PoisonIvy New Member

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    note 1: margot & duroc cannot be chosen separately, they must be fielded together. note 2: margot & duroc must belong to the same combat group., this words come from the section download (profile) of the infinity website
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    Yes, you have to place them in the same combat group and have to be bought together in the Army. However, they do not need to enter the table together (it has been mentioned somewhere by the staff), so you can drop Duroc with his Impetuous order, act with him as you want, and Margot can enter at a later time.
     
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    PoisonIvy New Member

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    thanks to all for the answer. Another question, can i use forward observer special skill and surprise shot together or are they 2 different special skill and i cannot combine them?
     
  6. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

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    Surprise shot can be used with forward observer. You can generally combine any number of skills as long as no more than one of them has the negative feedback rule, and all the requirements are met.
     
  7. Mahtamori

    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Forward Observer is a BS Attack and explicitly acts as a BS Weapon*. Surprise Shot requires you to use the skill together with a BS Weapon, so yes you can use Surprise Shot (Forward Observer). It's important to pay attention to the requirements and labels on skills (and sadly sometimes the examples).
    * This also means you can use Triangulate Fire with Forward Observer.

    That's an oversimplification. I can't use BS Attack and Carbonite at the same time, for instance.
     
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  8. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

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    True, but since you can't use more than one short order skill that isn't movement in any order I didn't think it was very relevant.
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Except when using the non-movement skill Surprise Shot together with the non-movement skill Forward Observer ;)
     
  10. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

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    The short order in question is a BS Attack. The problem here is that the word "skill" is used when referring to the short order skill and the special skill, and my underestimation of the pedantry of the forums...
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    Oh it sometimes gets much more ridiculous levels of pedantry than this. I'm a featherweight pedant. Other times any shit will fly. Sorry for being picky :)
     
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