ISS suuuucks at abductions. While I do think that Shang-Ji should be Veterans and Veteran L1/L2, I'm more interested in what the 5 new units bring. What the quick look at known units suggests to me is that either Daofei gets slotted in after all or a sizeable portion of those 5 new units are veterans or better (which also means fancy gear)
I have the same hope, but every time we talk in our game group about how these 5 new units should be we realise that most roles are already covered ( except the cheerleader one, thats where the idea of the S2 remote comes from). ISS sucks abduting in game but not in fluff. The bounty hunters should be able to do it, is his main job xd
A sectorial isn't made up of roughly 5 units, mate. It's easy to fill the slots, but harder to make them interesting and somewhat varied. Keeping in mind the limiting factor isn't what's in IA, but what's in vanilla.
I wonder if Sun Tze will be able to join links. Speaking of characters, considering the faction is down to two characters, one of those new profiles might be a character of either an existing troop type or one of the new ones.
I certainly hope so, he fits thematically and even unlinkable I'd appreciate a source of Strategos for that one extra order and some control of deployment when running lists of not-many expensive HI. Plus, his Lieutenant profiles need somewhere to go, now Uprising seems to show they're no longer in ISS ^_^.
Yeah, about that. One expected unit of the 5 is the Shooting Star AD HI (or at least we're assuming AD from name and art). Just like Tigers are Veteran, I'd expect their power-armored cousins to be Veteran or Elite. Shang Ji really need a re-work. I'd like to add a Chain of Command option (CoC is roughly 5 points). I'd like them to really be Superior to Zuyong, like their name says. Something cypherkk mentioned is that the Invincible Army really needs someone with +1SWC as a LT, just to help with army lists. I mean, heavy weapons on HI cost 2SWC for the most part, so you're only getting 2 big guns and some support options in IA. Neither of Sun's versions has +1SWC as an option. So I'm thinking that would be space for a new character. Broadly equivalent to Tarik Mansuri, Joan 1, or Kazym Beg. I'd like this to be a Shang Ji character, kinda like what Oyama is to standard Domaru (or what Tarik is to standard Khawarij). Not more than 4 points more than the basic Shang Ji. I realized that with JSA gone, IA could get something in the Shikami/Ayyar class. ARM3, Holo2 or ODD (maybe Albedo?), Specialist Operative. I'd drop the Martial Arts and massive CC, but I still want the mobility of the Shikami. Climbing Plus and Superjump. Maybe CC19 and NBW? Good place for a Multi Marksman Rifle while we're at it. Another fun option would be a Zuyong SpecOps. A Dire Foes named Zuyong Specops. This should be separate from the +1SWC character. Problem is that it will have to be 2-10 points more expensive than a base Zuyong, and Zuyong are already ~2 points too expensive. And finally we get to the advanced HI prototype that the Japanese had to leave behind. Could this be the other Su Jian-type transformer? For entertainment value, this could have Booty or Metachemistry to represent experimental gear and capabilities. That's 3 new units (Shooting Star, Shikami/Ayyar, Advanced Prototype), and two characters.
You know what else occurs to me? IA will have no MSV outside the Rui Shi and maybe Marksman Sun. We're certainly not going to get Bao, and I'd be surprised if we got Hsien, so maybe one of these new profiles will be a visor troop. Either that or we see some IA unique loadouts of Zuyong/Shang Ji that come with MSV.
@Section9 Hac Tao IA-unique LT profile MRifle at +1 SWC? @ambisinister low number of MSV is to be expected, and I'd expect MSV1 over MSV2.
With Hac Tao having an XO profile I'd be surprised to see an Lt as well. Shang Ji seems to make the most sense for it to me. Yeah, i'm not suggesting anything crazy, but one more visor profile, even at MSV1 seems like it would be in order. Also I forgot about the Lu Duan having MSV1 as well. So maybe we don't get anything else after all. I dunno, i'm just spitballing.
Yeah, like I said. I'm wondering what support elements will be in the sectorial. I need units to be able to support all the HI. I'm hoping for ava 1 ninja because the KHD ninja is SO good. I don't want another MO, a HI based sectorial with no KHD.
+1 SWC is something you get on those odd-one out profiles (though seriously, Joan is a bit good with +1) and Hac Tao is both a model you probably won't have more than one of so increased AVA makes no sense and the TO camo prevents it from linking, so a useful but a bit awkward profile makes sense as the sectorial upgrade. I don't know. I'd sort if expect a lot of MSV1, tbh. It's unobtrusive as far as ISS and smoke is concerned and also hints at a lot of funding and would be a decent way to separate Shooting Star from Tiger. Still kind of hoping for an ARM 2 or 3 medium infantry support troop instead of Zhanshi
I think the only way to give IA smoke, is to equip shang ji/new unit with smoke granade launcher (maybe something similar to al fasid).
Maybe, but +1SWC seems to be limited to named characters. And I'd like it to be on something less than 55 points.
Holy fuck guys. 5 Profiles is a lot of new units. This also probably doesn't include any changes to existing profiles. The golden boys JSA got what? 2 new units and a bunch of modifications?
In fact, the JSA haven't changed much at all in how they play. Their biggest addition is the Unit-9 unit. We'll see how much the new units add to Yu Jing.
