Flash Grenades Game Status

Discussion in '[Archived]: N3 Rules' started by Savant, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. Savant

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    According to the link on the wiki http://infinitythewiki.com/en/Grenades#Flash_Grenades flash grenades were replaced by Stun Grenades in HSN3.

    However Army still lists profiles with Flash Grenades and prints off weapon charts with flash grenades... so how are we supposed to treat it?

    For an example of this look at the profile of Thrasymedes.
     
  2. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    I treat them like Flash Grenades. If CB wanted to update Army they would he done so by now.
     
  3. Leviathan

    Leviathan Hungry Caliban

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    Only examples i was able to find are Thrasymedes and Loup Garous. Same goes for the PDF.
     
  4. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    They are stun

    The Wiki is clear
     
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  5. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    Isn't it strange that both the profiles PDF and Army haven't been updated to reflect this since N3 though?
     
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  6. Contaminator

    Contaminator Brigadier of Baguette Brigade

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    Well at least in the case of the Loup-Garous it is because CB has stopped doing anything to update FRRM until they are re-released.
     
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  7. Savant

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    That was my thought with the Dire Foes just being re-examined as of Uprising.
     
  8. Savant

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    Just another thing to add to the FAQ or hope someone notices and updates Army or the Wiki.
     
  9. Hiereth

    Hiereth AI Artichoke

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    Yeah and that's got some merit I guess, but with Thrasymedes the dire foes were just updated so you'd think he'd have been looked at.
     
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  10. Hecaton

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    Obviously CB disagrees, otherwise they'd update army.
     
  11. Savant

    Savant Lhosthost
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    I may be grasping at straws here but @ijw are you involved with the wiki?
     
  12. cazboab

    cazboab Definitely not Cazboaz.

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    I'd guess it's something that will be updated in the campaign book whenever it comes along with the Aerocam, MRRF, the Shasvastii, and probably a few other things...

    I can't find any reference in the HSN3 book for replacing Flash grenades with stun, just that flash ammo uses the stunned state, so it seems to be that flash grenades are dmg 13, stun grenades are dmg 15, unless there's another source of the line in the wiki about them being replaced entirely...
     
  13. daboarder

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    Yes he runs it


    furthermore for those arguing about army, if you click on the link in army you will be taken to the page that directs you to stun grenades.

    The wiki and the rules are intrinsically linked, IJW does not update or add information to the wiki unless it has been confirmed by CB that is the case, there is a long and well documented history of this on the old forum.
     
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  14. Hecaton

    Hecaton EI Anger Translator

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    Army is maintained directly by CB, it's more accurate than the wiki.
     
  15. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    And directs you via hyperlink directly too the wiki
     
  16. Spleen

    Spleen Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they really looked at Thrasymedes, he didn't even become religious to keep in line with the other Thorakites.

    I think the ones they thought were working already they didn't rework.
     
  17. ijw

    ijw Ian Wood aka the Wargaming Trader. Rules & Wiki
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    Given that it was checked directly with the guy who writes the rules before being put on the wiki...
     
  18. Savant

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    Thanks Ian, appreciate you weighing in as always.

    I guess at this point we can just cross our fingers that Army will be updated and streamlined to match the intended rules. Would be much easier than having to open the wiki for an opponent to see mid game.
     
  19. Hecaton

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    I mean, I'd be annoyed if I was in your position too, but the fact remains that if CB can't be bothered to update it on the platforms where they address the community directly, they must not take it seriously. I eagerly await the day they correct it, but holding my breath sounds like suicide. And I'm not going to expect people to play Flash Grenades as Stun when Army is supposed to be accurate.
     
  20. daboarder

    daboarder Force One Commander
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    the problem isnt so much CB as it is members of the community taking delight in finding issue with hte RAW when the RAI and the informed way it works from representatives of the company is clear.

    ie: chill hecaton, you have your answer
     
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