So offshot from TAG on Bike discussion. If we have a biker (natural one or guy who just looted a Motorcycle from Panoply) and he leaves a Motorcycle behind (dismount) as a Marker, can other model mount that bike ? Bonus question: can enemy model mount such a bike ?
The only way to use another trooper's Equipment is to use Scavenger on their Unconscious body. So they'd have to still be with the bike.
*thoughts of sneaky nomad bike thieves spring to mind* So in effect, the bike is "locked" to belonging to whoever brought it/won it from the slot machine, correct?
And the rule stating so is ? If there's a looted Bike Marker, what rule exactly prohibits other trooper from going b2b with it and declaring "mount" ?
Does it explicitly say the bike is theirs? I guess if there is something that says that, case closed. Otherwise.....well yeah no idea truth be told
Motorcycles are Automatic Equipment, and the rules text repeatedly refers to it as being owned by the trooper: 'Units equipped with a Motorcycle' 'any trooper with a Motorcycle' 'his Motorcycle'
I believe Bakunin would like a word about pronouns :P But yes- seems the simple "assume the answer is no you can't do that" rule applies here!
@ijw well I understand but the Motorcycle is bit more special as it can be left standing as Motorcycle Marker. Basicly it refers to a question if abandonden motorcycle must/can only be used by thier "original" owner. Another question, if there are 2 dismounted Mavericks, can they "exchange" and mount each others bikes ?
It's still Equipment. And it makes no difference whose Motorcycle it is, another Maverick has no more access to the Motorcycle than anyone else.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you scavenge the keys, the bike is removed from the table along with the person you murdered and a bike appears magically next to you?
Is this part of the whole "When you scavenge equipment/weapon/deployable, what state is it in?" question? As woefully underwritten as the motorcycle rules are, the better question would be: If you kill someone who is currently riding their motorcycle, and scavenge the bike, what happens? Have the motorcyclist drop a motorcycle token (presumably where they were). Have the scavenger immediately mount a motorcycle (and change profile), causing spacing issues in cramped situations. But one or the other, or a choice, needs to happen in order for the scavenger to be able to use the scavenged motorcycle. But if you loot Motorcycle from someone who got off their bike, none of that's necessary. Because you get the same full use that the other model does--Walk back to the motorcycle token and mount up--without needing to add rules. But that's taking the absence of a rule that removes dismounted bikes from the table when their owner is killed after dismounting for granted.
I was sure there was such a rule as cleared the Motorcycle token on death. Yes, it's part of "what state is the equipment in". If I loot a Hacking Device from a model that is in Disabled state, does the Disabled state carry over (ditto Burnt model from whom you loot ODD)? If I loot AP mines from a model that's used 1 of them, do I get AP Mines with 3 or 2 charges? For Motorcycle it's more difficult, however, since AP Mines once deployed won't change ownership through Scavenging - what provision within the rules are there for a Motorcycle token to do so?
I guess we need a mission with abandoned motorcycles and Szenario rules granting access to them... for everyone, or only specialists, or just engineers. Maybe rescue could be easily adapted. Exchanging the civilians with bikes.
