Since the new NA2 armies have finally been brought out, I thought I'd make a thread to post our lists and critique them. Also to talk about IkariCo's strengths and weaknesses in general. Made something of the sort a couple days of go that goes for the Wu Ming paintrain. Main weakness might be lack of specialists and most of the specialists are the Wu Ming. Debating on switching them to the cheaper Chain Rifle option and fitting another Desperado or Bashi in. Ikari Company ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33) CLIPPER DRONBOT Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 17) WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31) WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31) WÚ MÍNG Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20) GROUP 2 2 4 3 KEISOTSU Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
My first crack at Ikari, seems pretty intersting. Definitely a very aggressive army that excels at smashing things and is about as subtle as a sledgehammer. Ikari 300 ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 2 WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33) WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Haris) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) KEISOTSU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) GROUP 2 5 2 3 BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
This new sectorial has impressed me the most. Has good balance between versatility and punch. I'm waiting for the release of the brawlers. Rage Against the YuJing ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 2 KEISOTSU Missile Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 14) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 9) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TANKŌ (Fireteam: Haris) Blitzen, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24) GROUP 2 6 4 5 KRAKOT RENEGADE Red Fury, Chest Mine / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1 | 24) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) PANGGULING (Minesweeper, Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Group 1 is versatility of fireteams composition. You can go 5 man Keis, 2 Tanko + Hacker Haris and Brawler duo or go for 3 Keis + MSR Brawler + Tanko and 2 Brawlers + Tanko Haris. I think the weapon rangebands in each fireteam overlap nicely too. No HMG, but it can be easily solved. Group 2 join for smashing faces, smoke covering, hacker killing and some okay healing. There are some minor 0,5 SWC points sinks for the sake of versatility. It was intentional for experimental purposes
Yeah, what I found is Ikari Company is going to have the ability to hit really hard and sport very flexible fireteams. That said, the main problem might be scoring objectives easily in some respects.
This is the list I've been toying with. The Druze link is very interesting in Ikari vs DBS. I feel like I am much more limited in Ikari, but don't have to rely on the link as much. I feel like EVO is almost a necessity with larger or more expensive link teams in Ikari. Losing your whole link due to a stupid ARO, or a crit sucks enough already. But not being able to reform it at all??? No thank you. And while it might seem like you're all of the sudden pumping a lot of points into supporting a link team (as you would in DBS) Ikaris other asset groups can support themselves well enough. Example being Desperados and Ruishi making a fast, nasty, flanking combination. Or the Krakot to flush out hidden enemies. And in the Ruishi example, you can make use of the Evo to support the bot. In the future I would like to try to fit a pathfinder in there, or another fast moving asset. The Cube Jager is solely in there because I recently won the model, but I would drop him in a heartbeat for a pathfinder. Druze Link ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 2 NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20) JÄGER Submachine Gun + E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt, Panzerfaust / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) GROUP 2 2 2 2 PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) 6 SWC | 299 Points Open in Infinity Army
So, kind of like PanO with actual cool things? :P (Yes, I am a PanO player and think there are some good things, but...meh).
for objectives they have the nice bashi bazouk special operative for only 17 pts and ninjas; that enough in my opinion :p
Ikari Company ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 2 3 KEISOTSU Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) TANKŌ (Fireteam: Haris) Blitzen, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24) JÄGER Submachine Gun + E/Mitter / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 18) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) GROUP 2 2 7 7 YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) NINJA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 35) WARCOR (Aerocam) Flash Pulse / Stun Pistol, Knife. (0 | 3) 6 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
My intention for the second Tanko, the Harris, is it's there for reforming the link with the Brawler Lt. if the ARO pieces (Brawler Sniper and Tanko ML) get taken out. It really could be any Tanko profile at that point cost since the harris doesn't really add much more redundancy or depth of options in this list.
This looks fun to me. I wish I could field more Krakots :) Ikari Basterds ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 3 BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) KEISOTSU HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) TANKŌ (Fireteam: Haris) Blitzen, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) JÄGER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0.5 | 21) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) GROUP 2 3 4 5 BOUNTY HUNTER Sniper Rifle / 2 Breaker Pistols, Knife. (0.5 | 21) BOUNTY HUNTER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) KRAKOT RENEGADE 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades / Pistol, DA CC Weapon. (0 | 14) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
I like War Bands :) Warband ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 2 5 6 KRAKOT RENEGADE Red Fury, Chest Mine / Pistol, Shock CC Weapon. (1 | 24) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) DESPERADO Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, AP CC Weapon. (0 | 11) GROUP 2 8 2 2 RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20) PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) DRUZE HMG, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 29) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher (E/M and Nimbus) / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) NINJA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Shock CCW, Knife. (0 | 35) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
TTT and Comms ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 1 KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10) KEISOTSU Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) BRAWLER Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 20) LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21) BASHI BAZOUK Submachine Gun, Chain-colt / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 12) TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) GROUP 2 5 2 4 PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25) TANKŌ (Fireteam: Haris) Blitzen, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0.5 | 24) BRAWLER Heavy Rocket Launcher / Assault Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 18) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) 5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
Okay, so I have a weird list to show you... Basically, I decided to see if it's possible to build an Ikari list just with the models I have (or I'll have in a few weeks), without me buying anything new. The result? A totally non-Asian Ikari list. Does it even make sense fluff-wise..? Ikari Company ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 DRUZE Lieutenant (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) DRUZE (X Visor) Combi Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23) DRUZE (X Visor) Shock Marksman Rifle, Chain-colt / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27) DRUZE Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Pitcher, D-Charges / Viral Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25) BOUNTY HUNTER Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 15) ARMAND (Multispectral Visor L1) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser, Antipersonel Mines / 2 Breaker Pistols, Shock CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 45) FASID Heavy Rocket Launcher, Submachine Gun, Antipersonnel Mines / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (2 | 45) SIERRA DRONBOT HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) CLIPPER DRONBOT Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18) GROUP 2 3 BRAWLER Doctor (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) FUGAZI DRONBOT Flash Pulse, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 8) PATHFINDER DRONBOT Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) 6 SWC | 290 Points Open in Infinity Army Now, feel free to massacre the list. :) Please tell me what it lacks tactics-wise etc.?
Well... true. But I'm kind of interested in the idea of a mercenary company of total bastards :) Aside from the list's similarity to a DBZ list, is there any problem with it? I hope to start playing soon and I'd like to learn making lists :)
The bastard level of DBS and Ikari can be on equal footage depending on your personal preference. What your list definitely is missing are 10 points of minis! Other then that it's a little light on specialists so switching the pathfinder to the first group and the Sierra into the second one is definitely advised! And Probably the Brawler with the Bounty Hunter as well!
Tanko, combat jump on it ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9 1 3 TANKŌ Missile Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (1.5 | 32) BRAWLER (Multispectral Visor L2) MULTI Sniper / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 28) KEISOTSU Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 11) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) YOJIMBO Contender, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades, CrazyKoalas (2) / Pistol, DA CCW. (0 | 21) BRAWLER (Special Fireteam: Haris) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 17) TANKŌ Flammenspeer, Contender / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon, Shock CC Weapon. (0 | 23) BRAWLER Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20) TOKUSETSU EISEI Doctor (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14) YÁOZĂO Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) GROUP 2 4 5 4 NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) KEISOTSU Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 9) KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 8) BASHI BAZOUK (Specialist Operative) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 17) YUAN YUAN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0 | 8) 5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army This could be goofy
