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  1. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    Overall, I am alright with it being Corregidor versus Aleph. Nomads are always popular and OSS could use some love. The Mazebreaker terrain also looks unique and quite different than other CB terrain.

    Rumor has it that the new pictured Nomad is called a Vigilante. It would be great if it provides another Lt. Option.

    Hopefully we hear more information soon.
     
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  2. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    @Keith So Example 2, Next Wave. Compared to Kestrel, in my opinion they have a serious internal balance issue. Some of their choices are very powerful or cost-effective, but the limited order pool combined with high general unit cost makes it hard to include any of the cool stuff that isn't very powerful or cost-effective. Listbuilding feels a bit railroaded; if you're keeping to the high points, you're ending with something very hard to beat. If you try to venture off that track, you're hitting a wall. The result is a toolbox with a few tools being used always, few others being used sometimes, and about half of the tools gathering dust. What I'd do is to remove some of the broken/almost broken options, while tweaking the rest so that everything is a viable choice without being OP. Some of the highlights:
    • Removing the Hidden Deployment Puzzler. Its simply too much of a no-brainer to take two of these with one of Cyberplug options, most likely cheapest Gearhead. Best scenario would be merging both Sartroids altogether into one unit with different options, one of them having Infiltration and 1-use Camo. On the flipside I'd make them all tougher, because it's just silly for this hunky a models to be STR 1. They could use either NWI or STR2, skills and then cost adjustment.
    • Toning down Pandora a bit. Maybe starting by replacing Zero Pain upgrade with Firewall (-3) or a single Supportware, and by making her addition, not requirement for Research fireteam? Right now she's an obvious pick because she's a very tough hacker that allows to link Stingers. Changing this would make some space for other hackers, while allowing Stingers to play without her.
    • I'd give more fireteam keywords to the Nexus, making it kind of a command and control alien supervising new human EI subject. In particular I'd give them (Ironside) or (Heavies) keyword - and give it to Juggernauts and Ironsides - to make it easier to field NW heavy units. This would allow to field overshadowed units, while still maintaining a workable order pool. For the same reason I'd allow M-Drone into more fireteams.
    • Giving Raindancers a reason to be used. Right now they're warbands paying non-warband costs and having no visibility control tools. I'd give them Disco Balls and give Nexus an FT Master option to open up listbuilding options a bit.
    • Toning down Tekdrakens. In particular I'd split their Combined Army Knife of weapon options so that there are two weapons on each of them max. This should allow them to be slightly cheaper, and together with FT Nexus it'd make them a decent fireteam/order generation source, without having to add more R-Drones or Imetrons to army roster.
    • I'd also tone down Skyhound just so, maybe by making the BS Attack (+1B) skill restricted to AP Thunderbolt, Burst 2 Plasma is enough for such a unit.
    • I'm sure there are also good things to be done with fireteam composition to make the internal balance more, well, balanced, but I don't have enough knowledge about the faction yet to think this through properly.
     
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  3. Keith

    Keith The Raven Lord

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    @Stiopa I really like your take on NW. that makes a lot of sense overall. I really like the idea of giving the Nexus more presence as a kind of supervisor. Love the FT master thought too because yeah, the ways you can realistically build lists with Raindancers/Tekdrakens is limited points wise. On a side note, it really bugs me that you can’t take black hearts in Drakios’ dragon fireteams… I think I understand why. They would outshine him and Ironsides as gun platforms in pure links with them. So they’re the hardest to fit in fireteams in general and have no keywords except with steeljaws. But still. Would’ve been cool.
    I have a hard time with the puzzlers/ranters. I agree that they should be a bit sturdier. I find that even though they’re cheap the overall cost of one or two of them plus a gearhead is still decent chunk of points that can affect the direction my list goes. I usually get the engineer if I’m already investing points so they can also be used as servants especially if I’m making a tag list or something like that.

    I actually think with the Skyhound a good way to go would be like the firebat. Give it a+1SD instead. Just on the thunderbolt/plasma though. That would lower the overall damage potential, but would make it a better shot in aro so it could be a bit more survivable in that situation since it can’t go into suppressive with those weapons.

    Overall I really appreciate your thoughts. Thank you for sharing. :)
     
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  4. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    I can only talk about KCF an CA since I play them the most but I think Stiopa says it best. I would add that CB for some unknown reason made the Red Eye better than it already was. Like why give it Sensor? Then Continuous Damage GL? Why? Then they give very sub-par flyer to Yu Jing.
     
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  5. Keith

    Keith The Raven Lord

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    Full stop, when the heck did that buff happen…? Lmao??? My buddy played KCF nonstop for months and I somehow missed this… and the Redeye was a go to for him… XD I will say… that was a bit unnecessary. That thing was already a beast.
     
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  6. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    lol months ago. Along with Firebat getting +1 SD on ALL versions. Feiquan getting +1 SD on the non-lethal one only :disappointed: (feels like a big FU to me), I can't remember the others. All flyers also got Tech recovery I think.
     
  7. Keith

    Keith The Raven Lord

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    Oh dang. I’m sorry. :(
     
  8. Agorapocalypse

    Agorapocalypse Namurr and Nahab are girlfriends

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    Hmmm, anyone wondering why Corregidor is getting the update instead of Tunguska is not seeing CB playing 4D chess. Corregidor getting an update can also apply to QK. Work smarter not harder in your game development.
     
  9. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Only as long as the update applies to Alguaciles, Mobile Brigada and Iguana (which was given a relatively recent and significant rework) profiles. Because that's the CJC troops available in QK.
    Their fireteam options in QK (well, essenitally Aluacile and Iguana - the Brigada can't link in QK) are solely depndant on QK writeup.

    So, your argument for Corregidor is just as true as the argument that updating Aleph is also updating Imperial Service (Dakini, Devas) and several PanO armies (and some others) that have access to specific Aleph troops (eg. Garudas & Devas in Neoterra and Nagas in Acontaciemento).

    Nb. updating Corregidor can result in some serious changes to StarCo, as they share many of the Corregidor troops and fireteam options.

    Of course, QK may just get some new Corregidor troops, but this didn't happen since QK was estabilished in N2HS. So, while not totally impossible, I do see it as highly unlikely.

    Not to mention, neither Aluaciles nor Mobile Brigada are what I'd consider important for QK. Yes, like that: not only non-essential, but even non-important. They never were, and I assume their presence is a result of the sectorial's fluff history, hidden deep in Gutier's mind rather than exact need. Sure, the Brigada gives QK a well-protected, highly-mobile HI solo model (certainly more mobile and better-protected than their native Janissaries), but it really matters only for the Hacker profile (something Janissaries can't do at all): for gunfighting, Janissaries seem hands-down better, especially given thay can form some interesting fireteams nowadays.

    Alguaciles... that's slightly cheaper, slightly worse analog to Ghulam that can backfill a Ghulam fireteam. Which is a step forward, because I remeber time when they were forced to operate solo. If you need to skim a few points off a Ghulam fireteam, you can substitute Ghulam with Alguaciles (at the cost of fireteam purity dropping). Also, Alguacile FO has Deployable Repeaters (Ghulam are either-or, so you'd need two of them to cover both of these roles), making her the single interesting Alguacile loadout in my eyes, but that's about it.
     
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  10. archon

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    I would like to see that change. Give them some more CJC goodness and wove in some fireteams or make special CJC one. They are there, so they can get some utility. Wildcats could provide MSV1 for example. Otherwise they are just cosmetic and could be removed.

    Alongside the expected update for CJC I would like to see some nice Algua-loadouts in the style of Fennec, Keisotsu or NW. Hacker with ECM/Koala/Parrot, FO Minelayer or even FD 4" oh and why you took the GL (or MSR) away?
     
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  11. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    I would love for the Nomad units to have a mechanical reason to exist in QK. Maybe a dedicated Nomad fireteam or at least allowing MBs to link.

    Back to Corregidor, I didn't realize how much better Diablos and Lobos got in N5. Only things I could see them adding is more flexible fireteams and maybe more camo/decoys.
     
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  12. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    While I have rarely used the Alguacile MSR on my CJC, a Ghulam Sniper did show up once in a while in my Haqq fireteams. 1,5 SWC vs. 0,5 SWC made for a huge difference, espeecially when we're talking BS 11 basic Line Infantry.

    As to CJC troops in QK, Iguana is likely the one you'll see the most often. It is a neat tag nowadays, and historically, it was either it or Scarface when it came to TAG choices.
    With Shakush and Triphammer, well, that has widened a lot.

    Why a Mobile Brigada can't join an Alguacile Fireteam (and Alguaciles can't form one on their ownn - they need a Ghulam for it) in QK, is beyond me, since Alguacile /Brigada mixed fireteams are available in both CJC and StarCo (and not "pure" in either of these). Whether that would make ofr an actually useful team, I have no idea.

    Now, if I were to go for a mission that requires a good hacker coverage... Mobile Brigada isn't half bad. HI resiliency, TinBot -6, 6-2 MOV - what's not to like? Sure, my first choice would be al'Hawwa or two (camo infiltrator Hacker!) but Brigada, sure.
    Alguaciles, as I wrote above, is just skimming a few points off a Ghulam fireteam.

    But besides that, yep, I agree, they are purely cosmetic. And if they were all to disappear from QK roster within next 5 minutes, the Iguana would be the only one I'd really miss (and still I could make do without it, given there are other TAGs available nowadays).
     
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  13. archon

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    Guhlams have no sniper anymore. That is my general question, why took away the snipers from: Guhlam, Alguaciles and Celestial Guard (they also lost their Spitfire (and gain MMR instead but not get a model). I don´t know about Kappas but some Line-Troops keep their snipers (Zhanshi and Fusilier for example). The only line troop I do not miss the loss of sniper is Securiate, they did not have a model anyway and when you put sniper in their fireteam its the Grenzer.

    People my not pick them in their list, but thats no reason to erase them from army. People like me bought them and painted them. My CG lost four models in an instand (six if you count the now, not wysiwig hacker, but I can live with that). The do not hurt anyone if they exist in army. Thats not a good way. Make them more interesting is the way to got. The CG could get the MMR in addition then give the Spitfire MSV1 and the sniper MMR or combat instinct. Some small upgrade Infinity is a bunch of extra special rules with +1 B, +1 SD, + 1 SR anyway.

    Brigada is a very good Hacker on its on indeed. Only a bit pricey but you get good protection on two levels.
     
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  14. TenNoBushi

    TenNoBushi Well-Known Member

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    CHA bundle is on pre-order at Warsenal from April 14 to April 27.

    Should be around the same dates for other shops.
     
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  15. Darvain

    Darvain Well-Known Member

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    Why the bundle has new siocast McMurrough, and not the old, metal one? To me, that drastically decreases the pack value...
     
  16. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    It makes sense to me. The price might be a little cheaper due to less metal. Also the new one, sculpture wise is a bit better. They did do the alternate versions of some figures but they would never go back a step.
     
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    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    In this image from warsenal is the old one, but this morning i also saw one with the siocast one (and the army icons are still wrong)
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    PS: With LeMuet suddenly being in too many armies, i was expecting a reesculpt at some point, not being in a pack with Uxia

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  18. Darvain

    Darvain Well-Known Member

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    But why show the old one in a teaser then? It makes all of this confusing, doubly so with the different sculpts in different places.
    Also the description states the models are metal... I know this is CB we are talking about. But still.

    Also, why not release more wulvers? It is straight money at this point. Old female sculpts are good enough and will really add variety. If you are doing Cameronians, surely you have old wulvers.
    I am still likely to buy both packs, but I really need to know which "Murder McMurder" is there.
     
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    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    Darvain Well-Known Member

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    My local Warcor just clarified, that it is an error on the CB site, the pack will have old metal McMurrough. Take it with all the salt you may, until the picture on the CB site changes.
     
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