So, I now have a bunch of Aleph to actually play vanilla or OSS. I’ve tried making a generic list with as few proxies as possible. I’ll need to use Knauf as Hawkwood (which I’m good with since I’m not a fan of the Hawkwood figure). I’ll need to find a proxy for Danavas and of course we will probably never see an Agema ML so the sniper will have to do. Anyone have some constructive critiques? Generic ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 8 1 ARTALIS (Engineer) K1 Combi Rifle, D-Charges ( | GizmoKit) / AP Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 25) YUDBOT PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 3) HAWKWOOD K1 Sniper Rifle, Nanopulser(+1B) / MULTI Pistol, DA CC Weapon(PS=7). (1.5 | 36) DAWON Chain Rifle, Flammenspeer / MULTI Pistol(+1B), E/M CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 19) DAWON Chain Rifle, Flammenspeer / MULTI Pistol(+1B), E/M CC Weapon(PS=6). (0 | 19) PENTHESILEA AP Submachine Gun, Zapper(+1B), Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Monofilament CC Weapon. (0 | 28) RUDRA K1 Marksman Rifle, Mine Dispenser(Shock) / Heavy Pistol, PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 35) DANAVAS (Hacker, Hacking Device Plus [UPGRADE: Oblivion (+1B)]) Combi Rifle, Pitcher ( ) / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (0.5 | 22) SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, Pulzar, D-Charges, Armed Turret(Mk12) / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 34) GROUP 2 4 EKDROMOS (Hacker, Hacking Device) Chain Rifle(+1B) ( ) / AP Heavy Pistol, DA CC Weapon(PS=5). (0.5 | 23) PROBOT (Deactivator, Repeater) ( ) / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (0 | 8) DEVA (Lieutenant, Triangulated Fire, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (0 | 21) AGÊMA Marksman (Camouflage [1 Use]) Missile Launcher, Pulzar / Breaker Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 27) 4 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army
The list lacks a long range high burst weapon. So I would go for Knauf if I have him already. B3 MSR with visor and mimetism makes him a good gunner. Hawkwood is more flixible and has more staying power and 1-2 SDs (I think he runs with the Dawons). However you don´t have to prox him. Apart from this it has a bunch of good specialist, a MSV shooter that double as surprise ARO (personaly I would not prox a ML with sniper but its up to you (old SP starter has a ML Agema, which I sold back then because it was ugly), some good and fast CC robots and gal and good hacking. The rudra is a nice back up shooter and even better when you buff it with EVO support - it also can block ways with its mine dispenser. As for Danavas - according to CB shop she is still available as a blister. She is a good hacker with HD + and Oblivion B3 and her own pitchers. Old Deva lady or old Asura would make fine proxys. Speaking of proxys: I just build the new box I especialy like the design of the MK2 ladys. But I like old MK5 SMG more. So I would prox the old sniper as a Dasyu and try to sell new MK5.
Unfortunately, there’s not much in the way of high-burst weapons in Aleph and OSS. A few HMGs, 1 Multi-HMG, a few spitfires, 2 Red Furies. This is why I wanted a lot of K1. OSS is in the same boat. Worse in some ways, the only missile is on the Samekh. Yes Dawon and Hawkwood are a haris. Artalis is around to fix Dawon and baggage to refill Flammenspeer.
────────────────────────────────────────────────── 5 1 MAXIMUS AGENT Thunderbolt(+2B), E/M Carbine / Heavy Pistol, AP + DA CC Weapon(PS=6). (1 | 40) PROXY Mk.4 Heavy Machine Gun, Nanopulser / Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 25) YADU (NCO) Heavy Machine Gun, E/Marat / Heavy Pistol, CC Weapon. (1.5 | 34) DAKINI Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 21) ZAYIN Rebot Heavy Machine Gun / PARA CC Weapon(-3). (1 | 24) 6 SWC | 144 Points Open in Infinity Army This is Vanilla HMG - Maxi is basicaly a HMG. Dakini is cheap and effective even on its own if buffed by EVO. MK4 need a least a second Proxy ;-) - Yadu is expensive but NCO, non-hackable and has NWI - she also have nice sidearms. Dawon & Hawkwood look very nice - I will try it someday ... when I painted my Dawons ;-) normaly I do not play much vanilla - I prefere the sectorials.
Well I don't have Max, Proxies or Yadu yet. I do have dakini and it would be in OSS. I'm not sure how great it would be in vAleph. The Zayin is always good and something I have but would need to sacrifice something to get it in.
Dakini HMG shoots better in active then Zayin, because of mimetism. You have to buff it with EVO though. If you don´t want to change: Just give it a try with your Hawkwood B2+2SD K1 sniper.
by sections: 1) Proxy for Danavas: grab the double Kanren blister, the dude can work as danavas and the girl can be used with a S3 remote (rebased in a s4 base, obv) as an Andromeda proxy that is also Silhouette compliant (I printed a Unit9 kneeling chappy with the female kanren as O12's Alpha, and a mukhtar hacker with Andromeda's doggo for a S compliant Andromeda, the hand on the head of the doggo was filed away and Andromeda's arm replaced with one of the extras from the TAK specops). Dart SMG can work as Danavas proxy too. 2) Vanilla is just OSS without core but getting Smoke. For OSS I would avoid the Yadu core, using instead a single one with Disco Baller (since there are no other sources of smoke or Eclipse smoke in the sectorial) and going for Dakini + Deva combos, the Dakini Sniper with a Deva KHD is a good, cheap duo that can be always in use as support, while a Dakini HMG with another Deva (KHD or Sensor) or a Paramedic dakini with a Spitfire deva is good for light assault. I would avoid the Agema ML, because it has too big of a bullseye painted on his back, he's the only Mim0 camo in the army (libertos were culled from Vanilla), for ARO duty I would use the Mk4 HRL proxy, since it's hard to kill and even KO you don't lose the order (pair with a doctor for extra insurance).
In OSS I would put him with Dakini but this so far is Vanilla. Dakini can't be in a fireteam in that. The only troops that would give him another SD is Dawon, Artalis, and Satrah. Dawon are perfect for it. Cheap, long-ish range weapon, Immunity-E, RemPres Well I have Andromeda but not a big fan of mid-field non-camo troops. I don't have the proxies yet but on the short list. Making lists I like the flexibility of vanilla over OSS so far.
