For me it's airborne already. Effective mov 8-8 is absolutely insane and makes it top tier. It can be in enemy deployment in 2 orders. Till super jump gets nerfed with knight commander it's got 6 orders for 101pts. That's nuts. Multi HMG welcome and makes TIK loosing AP HMG a less biter pill to swallow It also dodges on 12s, 15 with Tech Bee I think it's one of the best TAGs in the game. Shame our engineer has a mildly bloated profile
We got some love in the army update. Joan got number 2 De Fernsen and Mendoza got a much appreciated move 6-2 De Fernsen also got dodge +1 And. And. AAAAAAND Trinitarian killer hacker profile with shotgun and d-charges The last one I am VERY happy about. I would have liked fire team with Joan can still claim cover if impetuous but will absolutely take that
Why you are going to shoot with your KH if you are not desperate? brings some AP in a good BS platform if needed and DTW have been reduced a lot. Realistically though you are not going to use the KH for non KH things.
What? you only use your KH to hack things? If the enemy dont have hackers or is already down and the button is pushed, he have to sit down and wait for the end of the match? You see this guy as a button pusher and nothing else. I saw him as a top gunner that also can push buttons. Is a BS12, Mim -6 troops. Obviously i want to shoot with him. I have to kill specialists around the objective. Maybe i have to gun down a TR bot and as infiltrator, he will be the closest guy for the job. Maybe the enemy haris is now parked in the middle of the table and i have the oportunity to get some kills. I cant do none of that with the shittiest weapon of the game at the moment. B2 is not enough to reliabily kill something, even if it's AP. And if that enemy specialist near the objective have template, i must shoot him from distance, so i lost the shotgun range bonus, again, useless weapon. The only reason i have infiltrators (or parachutists) with shotgun in my lists is because i dont have any other option (or in the case of trinitarian, because of minelayer)
Trinitarian KHD would be better with better gun, but would you be happy if they get more expensive? I guess not. It’s more “I’ll shoot if I have a chance”, not “I actively want to shoot with this” profile.
yes, i would be happy to pay more if he have a better gun. Im already paying for the sniper one. And im tempted of getting the SMG one out from my lists and put Konstantinos in
A simple combi rifle. Maybe a breaker rifle for variety. Marksman rifle is a bit too much, but Locust exist
Combi's a pretty fair ask, though it would increase the points by 2 or 3. It's probably not what you're looking for, but E/M carbine would be a good fit for them, too.
if we look at infirmarers, now combi rifles are +3 points to Boarding shotgun (N4 both cost the same). So, 27 points for a trinitarian KHD with Combi? I'll pay without hesitation
Maybe, without any context. However, MO always have been suffered from having expensive order base and expensive troops. I'm not sure you can make a satisfying list with that.
MO could truly benefit from having access to some 5 - 8 point irregular profiles. No idea what that would look like, but it would help offset some of MO's inflated costs and give Joan's Inspiring Leadership a purpose in the sectorial. Something between Ghazi (without the smoke) and Dragon Lords, maybe.
Are we saying a suprise attack KHD is useless in a faction incredibly vulnerable to hacking? Cybermask is very useful. Less so with guided nerf but being able to walk past stuff amazing. I don't think shotgun is useless on a camo profile. You have already closed the range for the most part I'm looking at using two minelayer FO and a KHD supported by Peacemaker for the repeater. That supporting gigachad De Fersen is fantastic.
I dunno I like them being elite. The average BS is 13 and the lowest generally 12. I agree Joan is wasted on the faction. I think if she could have a rule in fire team section that she negates frenzy in her link that would be cool.
Yeah, but for the same cost (long order) you can recamo and keep the mim -6. You cant do that with cybermask Having another KHD is nice, (and i would love to see him with SMG or Combi, or even minelayer) but still BTS 0. At least Santiago have BTS 3 and tinbot firewall, probably coupled with an EVO remote to put fairy dust in the table.
Different effects cybermask will allow you to pass through the minefield the camouflage will not be able to. I honestly do not understand why on earth you would like a combi in such a profile? why a lesser weapon, breaker? ok at least it is different still weaker than a Boarding Shotgun, be creative at least, ask for E/M weapons or something creative. As is if the Trinitarian runs out of hacking targets and objectives they can hunt down armoured targets.
More burst, more range, able to enter suppresive fire, dont have to enter zone of control of the enemy to attack with range bonus, risking myself to be hacked/berseked/templated/guardian. Burst 2 is not reliable enough to hunt anything
I think the BSG is OK on the Trinitarian as he typically would be hunting at very close range. A BSG on a mimetism -6 unit is pretty scary. If you shoot on a 1W line trooper with PH10 under cover, who’s trying to dodge, you’re having 51% of scoring the kill. A Combi rifle at short range would give the same result, a bit lower odds. If you play against high PH factions though (like Morats) it’s kind of the same magnitude. It’s a bit of a trade-off : a combi is better between 8-16 inches. A BSG is slightly better if at close range against low armoured infantry, and is definitely better against heavily armoured targets. Conclusion: it’s kinda ok for me. I wouldn’t say thought that the Combi is a lesser weapon over the BSG. They both have their pros and cons
