Hac Tao going to White Banner doesn't necessarily mean Daofei goes to IA right? Though IA would be a good place for that D-charge hacker camo gunfighter, and the fluff does make it sound like they're IA and not white banner frontier troops. Torchlight in N4 is a more efficient IA, even has Yaofang Long Ya equivalents, so I wonder what N5 IA will do to have a distinct identity. Hulang getting 6-2, other buffs or a price cut would be nice. Haidao have an armor pattern like the Daoying and Mowang, would like to see them as mim-3 stealth guys to shore up the bulldozing role of Shang Ji + Zuyong. Lei Gong wears almost same armor as Daoying, Lei Gong became HI... Daoying could get bumped to HI and NWI then. They're smaller models because all Infinity lady power armor is half the thickness of the gentlemen.
So far with the revised YJ we have seen, Gong, Adil, I'm not that enthusiastic. Tm me Gong becoming hackable is a draw back. And he's still NWI instead of 2 vit. Adil looks great but a lot depends on what we have not seen yet. He's really expensive for my liking. Of the new things, Long Wang, Feiquan, I'm pretty happy with. Neither are game breaking or bad. I hope they will show some of the Gudan or Snakes soon.
What do you think / hope will change for Shang-Jis in N5? I wish for a sizable HI cost cut: Bravo and Kriza lost 7-9pts, so I hope for more like that instead of the ORC's 3 pts, and / or more Tac Awerness for them. Couple of days ago I leafed through every faction in ARMY to measure up how prevalent tactical awareness is and... it's pretty fucking rare outside of TAGs . I hope CB will reinforce this uniqueness of IA that you could easily have 14-15 Orders with only 10 models, and gives more Shang-Ji profiles Tac Aw, like the paramedic and rifle+tinbot loadouts. Yes I want so spam them even more !
I'm not getting my hopes up too much. I expect a small point change and that's it for them. Hopefully we find out soon. They said before Christmas and that's only about 3 weeks away.
NWI shock immune is staying in N5 yeah, so I'd actually want Zuyong get a price cut and downgraded to NWI so they feel more like line infantry with better gear, and contrast more with "new improved superior Shang Ji" *those impetuous budget fireteam melee guys in JSA and MO could also get an NWI downgrade so they feel like they're actually losing something to stay under 20pts as HI. Tac Aware only on bare rifle or shotgun guys instead of stacking all goodness on one tinbot HMG tac aware hero would spread the cost and make them feel more like a coordinated fireteam than one protagonist+supporting characters. It does pair well with Forward Observer to make it feel like they're scouting ahead for the heavy gunners. More underslung grenade launchers would be tacticool. Haidao are space marine pirate commandos, they'd look cool throwing smoke grenades.
Hackable Lei Gong isn't a huge negative to me, I think the 34 point FTO profiles are the most attractive anyway so you are likely to have a tinbot and/or a hacker in the same team.
A big NO. The NWI + Shock immune only grants you a discount of 2 points and you lose so much by not having two real wounds. The moment that MI wit NWI + SI started appearing, the 1w HI with NWI lost any sense. Developers need to stop doing that. That BS has no place in YJ. Also, as the HI specialist faction YJ deserves any kind of discount in their HI. Discounts that HIs in other factions get but YJ is forced to pay point by point. I am fed up of such incongruence by part of developers. Hope N5 puts an end to this.
I think Hai Dao needs to be like a HI version of the BLAIR. They are spec ops naval marines afterall. Insteas of smoke I have the hunch they will toss the Dokkaebi in IA as that way they can get a cybercombat unit IA needs so badly and discoballer access without having to create something new.
I hope in new changes for our best tag. The Guijia is a turtle; with Immunity (Arm) it would be perfect (like Maximus).
Yes! Just once I'd like to have something in Yu Jing that everyone complains about being OP. At least for a couple months . Immune (AP) at least would be ok. It's not to OTT.
Most of Shangs have TA already. But I agree just move the skill up to the genral skills part of the profile. But get rid of the plain loadouts. Standard MR should just FO or Para. HMG profiles down to Jisus and fine. From the start of IA they should do Zuyong with 1+1NWI and Sh.Imm and all the new ones with real 2 W. Apart from that I would like to see BTS on Haidao and move 6-2 on Hulang along with sort of Hacking protection for the FD loadouts. I also hope we see another weapon loadout for the Liu Xing - Multi would be great. Haidao as a (insert keyword here)-wildcard would be a nice x-mas gift. Yan Huo will probably gain Imm.Arm. Guijia is good like it is, a solid point drop would be nice. Guilang sniper with MMS could make her actualy useful again, I would also trade Inf. for FD 8 on her ;-) Zhanshi for 10 base :-) Juaks with imm Cont.Dam. and a Vulcan for the Engineer. Skip combis, go breaker for all. I wonder what Gao will get or Tai? Not on ARM 8 please.
I've added images of the new profiles we have seen to the first page of this thread for easy reference.
Sadly CB can't do that, as they must think of the Ariadnans. For some reason they still keep them around in the game...
But all of those rely on AP and / or EXP ammo, and if Guija becomes immune to al of that, then we'll get the cry fest of the century
Yeah? so? I'll make wine from their tears! Seriously, I doubt they would do it. When has anything in Infinity actually lived up to its name?
Funnily enough, Kuang Shi held that title when I started. 5pt Dogged Regular Chain Rifle troopers without Tactical Window in play gave Yu Jing probably the best Order battery in the game in mid-N3. Albeit, that was when Infinity's balance was considered so good that the Zhanshi having a 1pt inefficiency over its peers was considered YJ's worst problem! Different times... Personally I'd just prefer the main powers to not get the dogface skill on everything? It's really quite powerful, and a bit of a standout skill for Ariadna who otherwise don't get all that much. Not to mention, be careful what you wish for- Yu Jing has some of the worst access to BTS-targetting weapons I can remember outside the odd Nanopulser. You don't want to trade all those fun HI for Zhanyings in case you hit a terrifying Guijia in the mirror match!
