September>December 2024: Nuclear winter has struck, leaving room for the N5

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  1. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    ...yes? And it was always like this? "What if I'll face TAGs/HI links/Smoke/Mimetism in bulk/Warbands/large number of Camo/Paras/etc.?" We always had to take into account what opponent might bring to the table and make sure our lists have hard and soft counters. What flyers change is that you might also face a fast TAG with Mim-6, one STR less, lower BS, lighter weapon loadouts, that gets no cover but can't be countered by melee. It's far from not having a counter.

    YES
     
  2. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Wow they are pumping them out today!

    I'd say Budget Ninja! The hacker with d-charges looks awesome to me.

    I'm not sure how I feel yet. This might seem like something I need to play to "get it".

    But I really like the Feiquan. That E/M Carbine looks sick! It also has Sensor!
     
  3. QuantronicWombat

    QuantronicWombat Well-Known Member

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    I dunno, I think the fact that it can fly through Disco Ballers, go straight into the enemy deployment zone, jump straight up, and shoot prone roofers in their uncovered butts makes up for the lack of fancy guns or ammo.
     
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  4. A Mão Esquerda

    A Mão Esquerda Deputy Hexahedron Officer

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    And the mobility means it’s going to spend a lot of time in the +3 range on the Spitfire, and hovering up in the air to negate Cover.
     
  5. fari

    fari CRISTASOL, EL LIQUIDO DE LOS DIOSES

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    AP, usually yes, but because is the only option of the troop, not just because it has AP ammo. For MSV, i dont have plenty of them in my armies, and usually are not worth because expensive FT options or is equiped in a suboptimize troop.


    It must be great to have options to cover every random posibility you'll face against random people with random lists. I havent. Thats why i always focus my lists in what the mission needs. But i see i am the weird one (well, not only me, also all the guys i play with)

    That is like in N3. I dont have anything in my lists that need an Engineer, so why include my shitty, basic engi in the lists if i dont need it? Only to cover if i got hit by EM? I can use his points in more bodies or upgrading another troop in the list.
     
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  6. Space Ranger

    Space Ranger Well-Known Member

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    If the Red Eye spec fires the GL, then it's a further -3 to dodge? Dodge -3 and Out of LoS Dodge -3.
     
  7. Crusader

    Crusader HI connoisseur

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    Isn't doge(-3) means that when the model makes a Dodge roll then the attacker receives a -3 penalty for the FtF? So it isn't penalizes its target's dodge.
     
  8. Delta57Dash

    Delta57Dash Well-Known Member

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    Dodge (-3) is a modifier to an opposing Face-to-Face roll when you declare Dodge, not when another model declares Dodge against you.
     
  9. The Holy Knight

    The Holy Knight Well-Known Member

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    I really like the Feiquan, thank you CB.
     
  10. Stiopa

    Stiopa Trust The Fuckhead

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    Nothing random about it. The list of possible types of threats is finite and not that long. I might not be prepared for everything but I can be reasonably prepared for most of it. But then again I enjoy building toolbox lists (unless I'm doing something out of the left field, like double TAG lists). You're not weird, we just have very different approaches, that's all.
     
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  11. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    It is also based on your expected type of play. If you do a lot of ITS, you get into a different mindset and build your lists to be able to deal with a multitude of threats and select missions. Versus pick up games with known friends. Different needs for different play types.

    While some feel like recent changes could have weakened Faction Identity, I appreciate that more Factions are getting some tools. PanO finally getting more accessible Eclipse LOS blockers, direct templates, and Marksman HI ; Ariadna getting Crazy Koalas and more STR units; JSA getting viral mines and excellent shooters; Yujing getting hard hitting one man armies; Haqqislam getting more anti armor; and Steel getting cheaper filler units.

    Hopefully we will see all the changes in a couple of weeks.
     
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