Haqqislam Hopes and Dreams for N5

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  1. psychoticstorm

    psychoticstorm Aleph's rogue child
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    You can simply re activate your holoechoes, so the skill can be reused, its not like a camouflage 1 use.

    That been said you are right we do not know how holoechoes will be handled in N5.
     
  2. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Also,
    • Janissaries can work in Fireteams. Up to full-sized Core.
    • Janissaries and Asawira pack AP weapons. Making them actually useful against HI and even TAGs if the range is right.
    I see Janissaris as our generalist HI.

    Ayyar... nope, up close they can only rely on their twin Viral Pistols. They are mid- and medium+ range gunfighters.
    And as I've already mentioned, kinda overpriced.

    One more thing: I no longer see the purpose for their Holomask. With Limited Insertion / Tactical Window, there really isn't space in the lists for two extra (if fake) models. Making it an overpriced ability you cannot really use.

    True - but at the cost of an Entire Order Skill - and performed out of sight of your opponents.

    In my opinon, this makes it a prohibitively expensive option.
    While I do use it with Camouflaged models or Impersonators - assuming the situation allows - I do it at the end of the turn, to help them survive my opponent's Active turn (automatic reactivation of Holos is indeed a bonus here).
    If I had to spend an extra Order merely to regain my Surprise Attack -6 advantage, well... maybe if I were to take another attempt at a TAG with E-Mitter or Zapper (assuming the TAG has no DTW). Otherwise it becomes not-cost-effective in my eyes.
     
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  3. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Well, the Aleph vid dropped, and there aren't many factions left. Ariadna and PanO have leaked, but they may still get their respective vids.
    I guess we might see Haqq no later than next week.

    Though judging by Aleph, I wouldn't expect more than one-two new units in vanilla Haqq. How much will we get trimmed, that's another kettle of fish.

    Probably there will be a lot of fun when the Aleph / Haqq lorebook drops, though.
     
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  4. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    Someone will gripe either way.

    Tomorrow would make me happy, a list of the vanilla sectorial so I can start reorganizing. Again. Hopefully with a nice backstory blurb of better quality than the Bohktar's. I'm so stupid bitter.
     
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  5. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    Listening to an old WIP 12 episode on Dashat and reminded me that a nice new profile for Odalisques would be paramedic profile: it would give them a specialist and make fluffy sense as they should be able to do emergency first aid on a client.
     
  6. Cadwallon

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    Yeah, i think that for specialist profile the odalisques should have medic/paramedic and/or some sort of defensive hacker (like hacker: Zero pain).

    Cheers.
     
  7. Papa Bey

    Papa Bey Clueless Wonder. Still.

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    And a full round of complaints about how overpriced they are. :/
     
  8. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    As we wait for November 18th, below are the models I am hopeful Haqqislam will get in 2025:


    -Jannisaries Box (Horlak Sniper, HMG, Missile Launcher, Doctor)
    - Odalisques Box
    -Viral Sunduqbut
    -Unicol Maggie
    -New Mutts
     
  9. CmdrSandmann

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    Why though? The Sunduqbut has no identifiable weapon, so it is basically a universal proxy.
     
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  10. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Also, we'll have to see how does the Sunduqbut look like in N5.

    For example, whether there is still a Feuerbach one. Personally I cannot find a reason to fit it into a list...
     
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  11. Brokenwolf

    Brokenwolf Protector of the Search for Knowledge

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    I see the Beyond one as a AP Spitfire, but I get what you are saying. I also just want it be easier to obtain. The Beyond Box has been rare for me to find.
     
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  12. Cadwallon

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    If the old box was ok, we only need ther rescale of HMG, and the rifle + light shotgun who is n2 era, i belive. Djambazan is out of sale? We need new hafza, maybe in a box starter for QK.

    Cheers.
     
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  14. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Assuming that Trinagulated Fire works like it did in N4 - that's some interesting ideas.

    Whatever Bangbomb & Discoballer are. Thunderbolt was mentioned on some PanO troop, I just don't recall it.

    Also, Ayyar lost Holomask. Which was of little use there.
    And got a mite chepaper, but that's along the lines inidcated for other HI. So, remains relatively expensive for the HI it is.
     
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  15. Cadwallon

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    From discord.
     

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  16. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    So, a Dodge +4 vs. non-template attacks?
     
  17. Cadwallon

    Cadwallon Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember the profile of thunderbolt, but think has more Range as fusil. Could be good hunter for some aro pieces.
     
  18. Cadwallon

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    Thunderbolt profile shown in japo list.
     

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  19. Cadwallon

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    Seems dodge +4 in ayyar ZoC and LoS. So in very close range.
     
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  20. Errhile

    Errhile A traveller on the Silk Road

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    Nitpicking here, but from the text it seems either LoS or ZoC (and non-Template, of course). Meeting one of the conditions is requied for the skill to apply, not necessarily both.
     
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