Next Sectorial for O-12 : what when and how ?

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  1. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    For what I understood (it's Bostria and a video, so... I have zero faith in their lore/rules accuracy since he said the Sophotect would be fireteam-linkable in OSS), it's more of a "space rangers" organization, keeping law and order ("defenders of justice", he said, like those are universal, real, objective and absolute factors...) among humans in those new grounds. It gives me heavy Wild West in Spaaaaace vibes (not a bad thing, btw).

    I would assume new contacts with the CA (so new, more alien terrain), new missions around strange installations, and hopefully the return of the 2vs2 rules (which were not all that hard to implement without allowing outrageous synergies, but it had to be really limited to prevent them). The RPG could get a lot of new content, and we may get some mobs in the tables like the QrAZtters (my way of saying QAZ critters... which can be pronounced close to crazytters without the "y" XD), since I doubt CB will produce more alien factions aside from the already present (the Exrah may expand to their own sectorial, however).
     
  2. Space Ranger

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    While exploring gives the thinking of scientists, protecting gives me the feeling of military. A combination of both. They want to stop an invasion coming to them but also want to find out what it goes to, if anything, and then study it. So maybe big guns with good specialists.

    I’m hoping that the force is made up of what’s not already in Starmada, plus Gladius REF, plus new troops. There might be some carry over as well. Jackboots would be a main core trooper just like in REF. To me it makes marketing sense to have the new troops in the new sectoral. You can buy the REF box coming out and then you can get the new TB box set. You practically have much of a force that way. But to get the rest you need to buy existing O12 and then the few new things added to them.

    I can see how the Combined would also be wanting to do the same thing but maybe don’t have the numbers to do it. So, they have an “advisor” with O12 troops. One of them directly connected to the EI. Like (but not) Charontids, Skiavoro, etc. I think like one AVA1 troop.

    They could also have a Tohaa advisor in case they meet something they encountered before.
     
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    I know nothing about the lore, but if Swordfor is policed themed, a new double-agent themed Impersonator would be pretty rad.
     
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    The new logo has caused a bit of confusion between the community, as they think it is implied that Torchlight Brigada is Swordfor and Starmada is Burea Aegis.

    The reality is that O-12's Bureau Aegis is the enforcement bureau of O-12. Which is divided itself between Section Statera (lawyers and judges, non-military people,) and Section Spatha (the enforcers, police, navy and army).

    And it happens that the nickname of Section Spatha is Swordfor.

    So Basic Vanilla O-12 is Burea Aegis, Section Spatha, also know as Swordfor

    So Starmada is also Burea Aegis, Section Spatha, know as Swordfor.

    And Torchlight Brigada is also Burea Aegis, Section Spatha, know as Swordfor!
     
  5. Space Ranger

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    LOL I like how they get bureaucracy in there! You’ve got bureau within bureau who then have official names no one calls, and then nicknames everyone does, but then depending on who says it.

    It sounds more like TB would be like a Taskforce within Bureau Agis. It’s Swordfor troops that have been placed with a specific mission. Which is to protect the Human Sphere from whatever may come out of the wormholes as well as explore them. Just like Gladius is a special taskforce to support troops.
     
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  6. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    That's just... Star Trek Enterprise, with kudos arch in the last season (where the main antagonist is the isolationist movement between humanity, kinda pissed that Starfleet went abroad and called all that attention back to home... considering the temporal cold war and the Spheres all along the previous seasons, they did have a point... one has to value operatives willing to die before disclosing the home planet's address XD).

    Well, O12 is a mix between NATO and UN, and its own "country" (you think Coruscant was big? You thought Trantor was impressive? Wait to see how humanity does not have a capital planet, but a capital SOLAR SYSTEM! XD)

    Yeah, just that a taskforce is not, per se, a repurposed force, but a mix of different forces into a mission-oriented group. I mean, you could have navy SEALs in a modern taskforce to explore wherever, but the taskforce is created ad-hoc... kinda like a soup, you know what you want, you try to get it, but in the end you will use whatever you can get your hands reasonably soon and effectively that lets you eat some hot spoon-based dish xD
     
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    Maybe taskforce is not the right word. I’m just thinking it’s Swordfor troops that have been assigned to a specific mission that lasts for an indeterminable time. The missions is specific that requires specific troops. Less police and more proper military.

    I think they are much more militant than Star Trek though. O-12 is probably especially leery after the war with Combined for a few years and the Spiral Corp shenanigans.
     
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    Stargate SG-1 intensifies
     
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    And I don't mind at all!
     
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    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    That's a taskforce, duration doesn't mean anything.

    Also, Star Trek more militant? See MACO commandos (specially in Star Trek Enterprise after the few first dozen or so episodes), and the Dominion war (Deep Space 9 collection)... militant aplenty, like the Akira class (and in Star Trek Online, which I don't endorse because most battles are against sandbag enemies, you have their heirs, the Armitage and the Alita class :p )
     
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    No. Sorry if confused you. I think Infinity is more militant than Star Trek. At least at face value. From the little I know of Trek and Star Fleet, I've just heard the "we are explorers" and "prime directive" things many times in it. Honestly I don't know a lot of Trek. Not a big fan but do occasionally watch some.
     
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    Just for the fun of it, if we assume what I said before is what they will get, what is missing from them that is needed?

    I right away see a lack of MSV. I have the Epsilon in it but that might not happen. Then they need a new troop with some. Story-wise I think they would equip this force with the best they have and be ready for anything. So, more MSV is a must. I’d say Biovisor but they need that to be, well, good.

    There’s only two HI and little NWI. Well, that’s not all that bad but I’d like to see at least a cheaper HI. I can’t see Gamma or Omega getting more than a Duo or Haris. So, another HI would be welcome.

    I have a feeling Varangian’s are going to be in the new sectoral so I’m not too worried about warbands.

    There’s a lack of speed but I don’t think that’s necessarily bad. I’m not sure they would have bikes since most of the time they might be on ships. But… if they find a world, they will need scouts!
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    If they get Ments and Vidocqs then that gives them Biovisor and an MSV1 Mimetism-3 MMMR, plus the potential for Vidocqs with longer range guns and MSV1.
     
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    Yes, but that’s only one profile (Vidocq). I think there should be a bit more. Also, there’s no guarantee that it will be available without REF. There’s a few that gained MMR but only for REF.
     
  15. xagroth

    xagroth Mournful Echo

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    While I think the reinforcement units will get to regular games at some point in time, I do hope they won't have the same profiles as in the reinforcements, since a lot of them would need a significant increase in costs, or would be even more cost-effective...

    again, I suggest the Deep Space Nine series, which is close to Babylon 5 in overall plot (only, instead of an old race wanting to play kingmakers, we get the invasion of a paranoid race of shapeshifters that created/modified warrior and administrator races, there's war aplenty and the exploration is fairly light).
    The explorers bit in star trek after The Next Generation, mind you, is less watching the scenery, and more tripping over lots of threats. However, I can't vouch for Discovery, that's a can of worms not even I want to be close to.
     
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