Hidden dismounting dilemma

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  1. Qwerinaga

    Qwerinaga Well-Known Member

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    We have 2 rules. First one in General Movement:
    "Mounting or dismounting will cancel the Hidden Deployment State, and any Marker State, of both profiles."
    Looks pretty clear.

    And second one in Hidden Deployment:
    "If the Trooper has a Skill that allows them to deploy in Marker State (for example Camouflage), they will be able to keep that State as long as:
    Both of these rules seem to fit the same situation but say exactly the opposite.
    So... what happens then pilot dismounts from hidden Camo-TAG?
     
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    That point means:
    If the TAG is in Hidden Deployment and has a skill that grants Marker State (Camouflage is the only combo out there) and the pilot Dismount, the Pilot can keep the marker state.
    But not having the Camouflage skill, the Pilot is not granted it.

    So, if the Pilot of a Cutter in Hidden Depolyment declare Dismount, you put the Cutter and the Crab-bot Pilot on the table.
    If the Crab-bot had the Camouflage skill, in the same situation you would put a Camo marker for the Cutter and a Camo marker for the Crab-bot.
     
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    Just hope CB never releases or makes an ITS season where a bike, vehicle or TAG with a driver that's also got camouflage I guess. Won't be an issue until such a time.

    If that happens you're basically in a race condition for which rule you or your opponent reads first during a game.
     
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    @Mahtamori the first quote is about cancelling Hidden Deployment, the second is about other marker states. It works pretty well, even if it written pretty bad!
     
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    Understood. Thank you!
     
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    Mahtamori Well-Known Member

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    No, the General Movement Rules say "..dismounting will cancel... and any Marker State, of both profiles". In the most literal sense they are in direct opposition with each other and you can't follow both rules at the same time.
     
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