Sixth Sense, Requirements

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  1. yoink101

    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    The requirement for using sixth sense is to be the target of an attack. Yet, every bullet point except 4 and 6 identify an attacker or attack in the text. Bullet point 6 says that stealth is ineffective against troopers with sixth sense. Cool. Makes sense. Should probably have wording that identifies that this part of the skill is in effect even when the user is not the target of an attack, but it works.

    Bullet point 4 simply identifies that the user does not suffer negative MODs while dodging. Should this read:
    • When being targeted by an attack, if the user declares Dodge, no negative MODs are applied, with the exception of the -6 PH MOD for Immobilized-A State.
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    • Any time (even when not targeted by an attack) the user declares Dodge, no negative MODs are applied, with the exception of the -6 PH MOD for Immobilized-A State.
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  2. colbrook

    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    It's actually part of the Stealth skill copied over for reference as people often missed the clause in Stealth during N3.

    https://infinitythewiki.com/Stealth
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    Note that its written that Stealth is not effective against troopers with 6th Sense, rather than using 6th Sense, this is a purposeful distinction.
     
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    yoink101 Chandra SpecOps Complaint Department

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    For sure. My question still stands. I think it’s the first one. But there seems to be a common use of the second one.
     
  4. Iskandar

    Iskandar Well-Known Member

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    You need to meet requirements to use a skill so if you aren't attacked you suffer any dodge penalties
     
  5. anubis

    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    Help me: I can´t recall any dodge-penalty except IMM-A (which is always mentioned seperatly) that comes without beeing target of an attack.

    Funny stuff I noticed: Sixth sense hard-counters Pandoras "Dodge (-6)" , due to "no negative MODs are applied"
     
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    Friendly reminder that Dodge (-6) means that when Pandora declares a Dodge, any enemy targetting her suffer a MOD -6 on FtF rolls.
     
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    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    ah damn, ofc. Dunno why a always mistake that in my mind. Maybe cause i never get to involve her in any fight :sweat:
     
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    Iskandar Well-Known Member

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    Declaring a dodge without LoF to the enemy if you aren't attacked
     
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    anubis sarcastic exaggerator

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    Ofc, the most obvious one... Its friday and my brain is fried, I go into a corner and shame myself.
     
  10. Abydog

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    Well, I have another one: surprise attack
     
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    colbrook Grenade Delivery Specialist

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    Pretty sure that's an attack, so will trigger 6th Sense.
     
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    I think I got the above wrong, so never mind
     
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